I took my friend through Vault of glass last night for his first time. We couldn't find a sixth so we ended up 5 manning it. My friend who had never done it before got pretorian foil. I've done vog 42 times now and I have never gotten it. I know that there are a lot of people who have done it more than that and haven't gotten it either. So how many runs have you done and not gotten foil? How many runs till you got foil?