Nerfing special leads to players jus waiting for special ammo to spawn. They need to buff primaries time to kill across the board. Primaries no longer pose as great a threat to people. I'm a top in the world and have been since year 1 btw. I use both shotty and snipes effectively. Snipers aren't a problem, Shotguns are fine where they r but the only thing lacking right now is primaries. All the nerfs to primaries has given us the current meta of camping in spawn with snipers. It doesn't bother me too much as I will continue to poop on players who do so but to casuals like urself who don't know how to approach players like that, it can be frustrating. The current meta that we have allows snipers to thrive, nerfing them isn't the answer as it would only make the game feel worse off then it was. Every gun would feel weak. To fix this sniper meta, they need to buff primaries across the board. Along with that, make higher skill requirement weapons top tier. Weapons like doctrine which require no skill to use shouldn't be top tier. Weapons like hawkmoon which have high recoil and semi auto should be top tier. Anyways I doubt these changes will happen. A lot of these ideas I just shared are also shared by a large part of the top pvp community. These changes would make the game more competitive as well up the tempo in games. It wouldnt make the game to fast but it would be between a year 1 and year 2 destiny. If anything it would result in probably the best meta of destiny if they were to do this.

Already tried that. It was flooded with icebreaker, invective, and the sidearm glitch.

there are plenty of good teams that use shotguns and they've already tried no ammo when you spawn and that didn't work

Passage coins should be a random drop from winning games as well, I dont see why we are penalised for not losing any games.

how about they make a random (each round) set loadout for each team with the quatermaster weapons so everyone has the same weapons. for example have the HC with Fusion Rifle and Machine Gun. or whatever. that way the players who are efficient with all can truly rise as top tier. idk just an idea

Snipers do take skill but you don't always have to use them. Put time into different load outs and you will find success. Fusion rifles are actually decent now but everyone rules them out so give them a try and see what happens

It's cuase you spawn with ammo, every map is a sniper map no map favour s shotguns let alone fusion rifes cuase sniper rifes are so quick to get into and even hip fire they are dead on and c cuase it's f*ing destiny lol.

Nerf snipers in PVP ONLY. Another suggestion is remove the radar in trials, this will make it harder and make the spawn points random so people can't memorize the spawns. It wouldn't hurt to put obstacles in known sniper lanes. It has become a joke, people are tired of the snipe fest. Are you listening bungie???

What makes snipers op are usually the high impact ones because they cam easily hit your body and then use a primary to finish you off, Its cheap and people always do it. Honestly somehow the high impact snipers have more aim assist than the low impact ones, maybe theres a few low impact with high assist but I usually don't see it. The low zoom is another thing that make all these snipers annoying as hell, people go around getting head shots at 5 feet away. Another reason snipers are dominant is because all primary guns in the game are garbage. I was a good sniper in year one and it was fun because it took more skills, you would be stupid if you ever used a sniper at close range but all the nerfs bungie decided to make only made snipers rise to the top and somehow bungie is actually cool with snipers being dominant. My solution? Leave snipers alone but buff all the primary guns to when they were in their best. Im talking about when autos were awesome, I'm talking about when low to mid fire pulse rifles could 2 burst, when hand cannons were useable, when shotguns had good perks. All these guns should get buffed to their prime, people will easily say wtf??? My solution? Make it so the range is the only thing that actually ever affected these guns. That way scouts can still kick ass at their intended range, autos will dominate the close range, hand cannons will be strong as long as the person knows how to time their shots. That would make trials a whole lot more fun because people will think about flanking the enemy, holding ground, sneaking, being aggressive. The pace of trials of course would be more challenging but holy shit thats what made the game fun as hell. I don't want this game to be like overwatch, in that game it takes like 5 seconds to kill one guy, thats boring as hell

Just add small sway or remove specials from trials.

Make a primary only version of Trials along with the original. THAT would be much more interesting.

The problem isn't the gun it's the strategies people use. You don't have to have a staring contest with snipers. Yesterday two of us would snipe at them while another flanked with the mida.