This post summarizes my frustration with the latest nerf to hunters. You make a great point about hunter's having roaming supers, but a difference of only 10% is really not that significant. Think about it like this. The hunter is the lightest armor class, so even though it has a purely offensive roaming super, it ALSO is not the best class for run/gunning (unless you like blink/shotgunning). Because the Hunter's stats emphasize agility and recovery vs armor, its smarter to play the ranged game. Maybe less so for the blade dancer, but the blade dancer's up-close skills only come into play when they are super OR when they go invisible to take advantage of blinkstrike's damage bonus. When you play the long-range game, your going to have a higher KDR, period. Hunter's aren't the best at cqc from my experience playing them, so of course we are not going to use them like you would a titan, running around, shotgunning, shoulder charging, stormfisting, and Fist of Panicking. But that playstyle is also less conducive of having a high kill to death ratio. Warlocks also can play this run/gun style. They have similar armor to the titan with the ram helm and max armor, they have max recovery, so they're pretty tanky. They can blink, they have a multitude of great grenades at their disposal. So they CAN be set up to be a run/gun class as well. And this is playstyle is less likely to lead to a higher KDR. When the Sunbreakers were nerfed, I believe Sunbreakers were averaging 10 more kills per match than any other subclass. IMO, a difference of only 10% of KD could easily be attributed to the fact that the hunter, particularly the gunslinger, has the best roaming super in the game. Grenades didn't even contribute to that many kills (I know they don't for me. Ability kills are less than 20% of my kills, primary kills are ~40%). So I'm not sure why/how the grenade nerf was necessary or even effective really. They should have just left them alone and brought the other classes UP slightly. [Edit] I would also like to add that the hunter is pretty much the classic definition of a glass cannon. We're supposed to have superior firepower to make up for the fact that we simply can't take a hit like the other classes can. High impact HC's and PR's will wipe me out in 2 bursts/shots, but I don't complain. I know that I'm running no armor for a reason and I accept the risks that comes with because I know that I'm getting superior firepower to balance out the fact that I can't take a hit. Now, unless hunter's have their super up, we're glass cannons without the cannon. Just a stupid nerf overall IMO.