This is something that has been on my mind for quite some time now. There were a few times where I began to write this, but found myself stopping because I didn't quite know how to word it. That was until earlier tonight when I came across this video from PAX. An interview with Digital Extremes regarding Warframe, a Free to Play game that has been going strong for 4 years now. Honestly, the interview itself says it all. No, I do not want Destiny to be Warframe. What I actually want, the purpose of this post, is that I wish for Bungie to be more like Digital Extremes. Games are a reflection of those who make them. They represent your core principles and values. Warframe has continued to be a success, thriving with an ever expanding community. It only keeps growing, ever evolving. And its not like they HAD to create a Free to Play game, they WANTED to. Warframe draws from the creative power of its players, and the developer respects this. They rely upon it. Look at all of the different kinds of powers, abilities, weapons...everything. Just everything. Here, to further push my point on all that here's a Twitch Stream for Angry Joe as he revisits the game for the first time since the friggen Alpha: https://www.twitch.tv/angryjoeshow/v/70214368 Destiny doesn't have any of this in it. Many of us feel dejected. There is a wall between us and Bungie, a barrier we can't seem to penetrate. And I don't mean Bungie as in Cozmo or Deej, because they don't really have any kind of actual say in anything. Community Managers need to be empowered by the company they serve, and its quite obvious that Bungie keeps both of them on a tight leash. Hell, its even a struggle to get simple questions answered. You know, a while back I had proposed an idea called the "Guardian Council" to address a very serious and still ongoing problem here, which is the lack of quality communication between us and the developers. The general idea of it was to promote an actual two-way, progressive discussion between Bungie and the Community. Because at the end of the day, [b]Destiny isn't a game FOR BUNGIE. Destiny is a game FOR THE PLAYERS.[/b] Your community should always come first. You should always try to include your players as much as possible in the development process. But each update or "new thing" added always seems to demonstrate just how little Bungie actually knows what their players want or need. For instance, the current hot topic around here are all these recent batch of nerfs. And this isn't anything new, either. Its been 2 years now. [b]TWO YEARS...[/b] I don't even play anymore and even I can sympathize with all those who have to deal with this crap. And the most screwed up part about it is that they continue to stick with it. Stick with you. And despite this, you don't see fit to change? I mean seriously, me and the rest who decided to take a stand and protest by refusing to continue buying/playing the game do so because we want the game to change. We want YOU (Bungie) to change. But even if you choose to ignore us? How the hell can you honestly ignore the others who beat themselves up, giving days and even months of their lives to your game? You keep them bound to you in this abusive relationship. And its not healthy for anyone. The reason why people always say "Warframe is Destiny done right" is because it doesn't punish your loyalty. It doesn't make you feel like a jackass for investing time into it. [b]And don't even get me started on all the recent news from Bethesda[/b], because that could all easily be its own post. I'm sure you already know damn well what I'm talking about with all that. I'll just put this here to further elaborate on that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT3eAmu4FhQ Destiny could be like that too. But before that can happen, [b]YOU[/b] need to change yourself first. You need to stop thinking you know best and trying to consistently tell the community what we think when we already know damn well what we want. The studio desperately needs to stop being so cryptic and isolated. You don't need to sit there wondering if such and such will be popular or not, all you have to do is just come on here and be like "So hey, this is what we're thinking about doing" and just -blam!-ing include the community in things. And if you can't figure out how to implement something? [b]TALK TO US. Let us help you to help us.[/b] Many of us still want all of our Year 1 Gear to come forward and stick with us throughout the life span of the game. We don't want to "leave it behind" which you decided was somehow best for us. Instead of imposing that decision on everyone, you could discuss with us how we could make that possible. Tell us where you stand on things, [b]GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK AND WE CAN COMPARE OPINIONS AND IDEAS TOGETHER.[/b] We can work to make this shit happen. There's all manner of things that we can address and discuss to figure out. But unless you bring down that wall and let us in? Nothing will ever change. Trust is very important. For many of us, you've lost that. You need to get it back. And you can't do that by continuing to ignore all the problems that have yet to be resolved. We don't care about shiny new toys or Destiny 2. We just don't, its not relevant. We care more about those issues that drove us away in the first place. The reasons that fractured our trust in you and made us turn our backs on Destiny. If we didn't care? We wouldn't still be here. [b]Think on it.[/b]