{{
`${userDetail.user.displayName}${userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode ? `#${standardizeBungieGlobalCode(userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode)}` : ""}`}}
{{getUserClans()}}
6/9/2016 3:43:57 PM
1
[quote]And where would the money come from. Funds gotta come from somewhere. You can't build on faith that someone else will foot the bill.[/quote]
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall
Now, let me also point out that I believe building a wall is ridiculous and a complete waste of money.
However, if anybody can secure funding for a wall, it's going to be Trump.
English
-
I don't think you understand how budgets work. He has to actually get congress to pass a budget where any of that money he gets from any of those ideas he may or may not get to happen to actually go to a wall and not to some other thing
-
Editado por Error Code: Skill Issue: 6/9/2016 9:12:52 PM[quote]I don't think you understand how budgets work. He has to actually get congress to pass a budget where any of that money he gets from any of those ideas he may or may not get to happen to actually go to a wall and not to some other thing[/quote] Point out where I said Trump doesn't need Congressional approval for the wall's budget. Seriously, I'll give you $100 if you can point out where I said it.
-
You implied he can secure funding for the wall and linked his platform to me, which seems like you are implying those things will definitely pay for it.
-
[quote]You implied he can secure funding for the wall and linked his platform to me, which seems like you are implying those things will definitely pay for it.[/quote] No, I said "If anybody can secure funding for a wall, it's Trump." I also provided that link because that is where Trump says he will get the funding to pay for the wall. Did I say I agreed with it? Not at all.
-
Editado por Britton: 6/9/2016 9:24:50 PMI'm aware you said you don't agree. I'm just discussing what you're saying. I don't think he secure funding for the wall at all, because securing funding for that is completely seperate from how he would like to increase revenue to compensate for it.
-
[quote]I'm aware you said you don't agree. I'm just discussing what you're saying. I don't think he secure funding for the wall at all, because securing funding for that is completely seperate from how he would like to increase revenue to compensate for it.[/quote] What you're doing is putting words in my mouth. You're confusing what I'm saying to what Trump is saying. Somehow you're under the impression that they're one and the same.
-
You said you think he can secure funding. I disagree. Why is that hard to grasp.
-
[quote]You said you think he can secure funding. I disagree. Why is that hard to grasp.[/quote] I'm sure he could secure the funding. Whether or not he could get Congressional approval to use those funds to build the wall is a different story. If you don't think he can, fine - you're entitled to your opinion. Like I said before, I think building the wall is ridiculous and a complete waste of money, but Trump seems like the kind of person who will get something done if he sets his mind to it.
-
His past says otherwise.
-
[quote]His past says otherwise.[/quote] You don't think a man who turned $1 million into $4.5 billion couldn't secure funding for a wall...? Okay. Like I said, you're entitled to your opinion.
-
Editado por Britton: 6/9/2016 10:06:10 PMI don't think he's good at accomplishing things, he's good at smacking his name on stuff, and hes good at reality TV and he's good at manipulating the law to cover his ass when he fails because he tried something other than real estate which is one of the few things he is actually good at. And he didn't turn 1 mil into his current assets. He went to work at his dad's already successful real estate business and took it over, and was successful at real estate and not much else. There's a big difference in taking a business loan and starting from scratch and taking some money and stepping behind the wheel of something already going strong, with a 40 million inheritance, a family name and connections his father had already established.
-
[quote]I don't think he's good at accomplishing things, he's good at smacking his name on stuff, and hes good at reality TV and he's good at manipulating the law to cover his ass when he fails. And he didn't turn 1 mil into his current assets. He went to work at his dad's already successful real estate business and took it over, and was successful at real estate and not much else. There's a big difference in taking a business loan and starting from scratch and taking some money and stepping behind the wheel of something already going strong, with a 40 million inheritance, a family name and connections his father had already established.[/quote] Could the average American accomplish what Trump has accomplished?
-
Given the same circumstances? Probably.
-
[quote]Given the same circumstances? Probably.[/quote] I'm going to have to disagree. I don't think many Americans have what it takes to accomplish what Trump has accomplished. America lacks leaders.
-
Editado por Britton: 6/9/2016 10:19:09 PMDonald Trump isn't a leader. He lacks all the defining characteristics other than a podium and microphone. He's the definition of a demagogue And really, you disagree? You think if a person is sent to prep school, college, and raised in a family business, given a large inheritance, basically groomed their entire life to take over the family business which is already successful, and they already posses many if not most or all of the relationships with important contacts, and businesses with full support and guidance from the person who built the business in the first place, that the odds are they wouldn't be able to pull it off?
-
[quote]Donald Trump isn't a leader. He lacks all the defining characteristics other than a podium and microphone. He's the definition of a demagogue[/quote] On a politics level? Perhaps. As a businessman? I would consider him a leader. [quote]And really, you disagree? You think if a person is sent to prep school, college, and raised in a family business, given a large inheritance, basically groomed their entire life to take over the family business which is already successful, and they already posses many if not most or all of the relationships with important contacts, and businesses with full support and guidance from the person who built the business in the first place, that the odds are they wouldn't be able to pull it off?[/quote] Yes, I do disagree. I don't think everybody is cut out to run a business, even if they are raised in that lifestyle and environment.
-
Editado por Britton: 6/9/2016 10:34:15 PMSure not everybody is made to run a business, but in those circumstances the odds are stupidly in your favor. As a businessman, he's a boss, or a manger, but not a leader. Being a leader and being a boss are not the same.
-
[quote]Sure not everybody is made to run a business, but in those circumstances the odds are stupidly in your favor. As a businessman, he's a boss, or a manger, but not a leader. Being a leader and being a boss are not the same.[/quote] Even if the odds are in someone's favor, it doesn't guarantee they will succeed. Sure, being a boss and a leader aren't the same - but it doesn't mean a boss can't be a leader, or a leader can't be a boss.
