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5/28/2016 4:42:11 PM
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Make The Last Word worth hip firing again?
I think bungie should sure make it to where the exotic perk on the last word is worth using, almost nobody hip fires anymore (which is in my opinion, how you should use the last word) because there's no point since the last nerf it got, meaning it's less accurate and does the same damage to the head as if you aimed it down. I think the last word an accurate and deadly weapon when fired at close range from the hip, and should get a bit more range when aimed down sights enough to be a decent weapon for mid-range (not talking about hawkmoon range or anything, just decent)
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1 RespuestaI feel the last word is in a good spot right now but I think they should add 2 bullets to the mag
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1 RespuestaSo what I'm reading is you all are mad that you now have to aim to get head shots and another gun can flinch you. HAHAHAHAHAHA........welcome to the rest of us. Your OP autowin gun is now fair. get over it.
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I've used the last word in approx 50 games now and when I've been hip firing (which I do a lot) it does the job 80% of the time. It doesn't need a buff, it doesn't need a nerf. It is fine as it is.
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-blam!- no, this thing is already a bitch. If you aren't getting kills you're poop
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1 RespuestaMake it less accurate and give the precision damage ability to 2 shot again.
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Yeah sights are stupid. Let's just take em off all the guns.
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4 RespuestasHow about something like First Curse. When you get a kill from the hip it automatically reloads and you get the hip fire bonus damage
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2 RespuestasI think I have around 10k Last word kills in Year 2 trials alone, and I had only gotten ONE two tap while hip firing in that timeline. Totally needed that nerf didn't it?
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9 RespuestasAlthough i liked TLW before the update, it was majorly OP. Right now, TLW is pretty balanced. You need to be fast as well as accurate. While i hate the damage nerf, it was badly needed. TLW is still worth hip-firing, as the TA, stability, accuracy, and (it feels like) range, but easier in CQC. I mostly ADS with it, but i do like this idea, maybe a small damage buff? Like, 90 to the head? I wish it could 3-shot like most hand cannons. (2 head, 1 body) So maybe a small damage buff? The damage should peak at 95 to the head, 51 to the body. Otherwise, TLW is relatively balanced.
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personally i wasnt a huge last word user but i thought it was fine how it used to be. im not talking about way back when you could map people with it. just when it had its damage taken away. i tried it out and honestly it feels about useless. people i run into using tlw in crucible i feel i have an advantage over because you can just tell it doesnt hit how it should. its almost useless imo
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Bump they need to give it more stability or damage perk back
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2 RespuestasMy biggest problem is its ability to counter the doctrine. Before when you had incentive to hip fire gunfights cane down to who got the drop on who. Now ads-ing against the doctrine is very inconsistent, sometimes the shots hit and others the doctrines flinch throws the guns aim off incredibly.
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(Sigh) Just give TLW its stability back so I can give guardians that work again.
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To be honest the best way I think it can be balanced is. Give it back its bonus damage while hipfireing but reduce accuracy outside of longer shotgun range when hipfireing. But (and the most controversial change) disable fanfire when ADSing
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If you use vertical space you should be hip firing anyway because its accuracy is ridiculous from the air
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Agreed. The gun is designed for hipfire yet there's almost no incentive to do so since the damage is the same as aiming downsights.
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2 RespuestasThere are two ways to buff The Last Word without making it too overpowered. The first is simple: Keep al the nerfs it got with the April update, but allow it to grant bonus damage while hip firing. The second way is to keep it exactly how it is, but replace hip fire with persistence. That way it feels more "accurate" while hip firing rather than aiming down sights. [spoiler]If you agree, bump this comment.[/spoiler]
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1 RespuestaOr at least make it usable in PvE...
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2 RespuestasSeriously though! Yeah, yeah 2 headshots from the hip was super OP but they didnt need to COMPLETELY remove the bonus damage. It makes me sad because from the first time I picked it up I was in love and now it's barely worth using
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The Last Word, my favorite weapon since year 1. Now a garbage in pvp, even at extrem short range it does not hit something ... The first nerf was far to be stupid, i made the Chaperon contract without difficulties, now it's impossible to use ... But i still like it in pve lol.
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4 RespuestasThis gun pretty much has no exotic perk anymore.
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#Bungieweneedbuffs
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Last word now is near useless, yes the TTK is kinda good, but to get no damage buff at all when hip firing, makes it useless, I use it still, and rarely hip fire because the accuracy buff you get is minimal, and the stability doesn't really matter cause you can't kill more than 1 person with a magazine anymore. So I say bring it back to pre April update cause it seriously is lacking in the damage area.
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3 RespuestasSo the gun requires you to do more than panic fire until you kill whatever you're looking at. It's a little bit balanced.
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Nah that gun is so cheap
