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5/22/2016 6:47:00 PM
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Class balancing: Strker
The Stryker class has one of the most competitive neutral games and best power hub super in the game.
My main issues are in its abilities to outclass quite a bit of other classes in terms of neutral game with no downside.
1. Titan skating. Something needs to be done since this jump turns any Titan class into the fastest in game class. Pair that with a shotgun and you have someone who can close gaps before you have time to kill them, especially with twilight garrison. Blink is useless now due to the nerfs, but they should figure a way to slow the overall jump or not let momentum stack.
2. Shoulder charge. No class in the game has a OHK without a recharge, there's no downside to it as well. You don't lose armor, you actually gain momentum, as well as you can slide/twilight garrison/jump/change and you won't lose momentum at all, where is the balance? This should take up the Titans melee charge on kill or reduce damage with the trade off of propelling the enemy forward.
3. Fist of Havoc. Make it so if the Titan is killed he can't continue his smash and not lose his super. That's a glitch long playing the crucible and I find it highly unfair to double up on supers.
4. Lightning grenades. Damage should be brought down from 122 to 110. The trade off here is increase damage of flash bang to 180 (and buff the effects), as well as buff the radius of pulse grenades (and damage output).
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1 RespuestaMuted for stupidity and ridiculousness. Too bad you are obtuse enough to stand in a lightening grenades path or camping near ammo (I took out three this way yesterday). Shoulder charge can be avoided by jumping or shooting the Titan before they get too close. Buh bye Budreau.
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Editado por Karma: 5/24/2016 4:51:08 PMTitan skating can be as disorienting as blink,aswell as get you killed I remember titan skating intona wall so fast I died Also you have a matador and last word,two great counters to SC
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7 RespuestasEditado por xDeFalt: 5/23/2016 12:54:46 AMThread saying striker is OP essentially. Check account, mains a Warlock and has a whole 8 hours playing as a titan. Obviously biased with zero knowledge of titans in general. Let me counter all of your moronic complaints too. 1.Blink,i don't wanna hear shit about titan skating when you nubs have blink 2.Backstab is a 1 hit and has a 50% chance of procing from the front(my experience with my hunter), also if you die from shoulder charge, you deserve it,pretty easy to counter considering they need to get into your face and the radar is always active,don't wanna hear it 3.Complaining about lag and foh armor rating, yea because you so have time to kill a titan during his foh before you die. 4. If you die from a lightning grenade you -blam!-ing deserve it considering IT DOESN'T MOVE
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Love the fact how he doesn't have a Titan and had no experience with any of the things he mentioned
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1. to be honest, i said that since like day 3 and no one cared. id rather have that "catapult" ability for quick foh / nova bomb dodges. 2. blink strike (one hit kill from the front...)/ nightstalker double grenade combo. put on max armor and you wont die by shoulder charge. striker titans need peregrine greaves (or what they are called) to oneshot if you have overshield / max armor. shooting at titans also works. 3. the same thing happens when you die as soon as you throw your nova bomb or storm trance (must be killed before half of the super animation goes off). 4. i would like the last thing, but whats the point of removing 12 dmg from the lightning grenade? just something to complain for the sake of complaining? or to survive when you have overshield? and whats the deal with the +5dmg on flashbang grenade? your input on balancing is... more than just strange. it would change absolutly nothing. yes i know im a titan main, but hunters and warlocks are just as good and better in pvp, sry. both have far superior supers, both have better melees and both have better grenades imo. lightning grenade, shoulder charge and surpressor grenade are the only good things we titans have. small note; rely more on shooting than your characters abilities. that helps alot.
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None of the above
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Step 1: git gud Step 2: ??? Step 3: profit
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Striker isn't OP It's balanced. Shoulder Charge isn't OP. Just annoying. Fist of Panic isn't OP. Just annoying. Lightning Grenades aren't OP. Just a good area denial weapon. Titan skating.... seriously, who cares. No titan has ever been able to out skate his death (at my hands anyway, and I'm bad at PvP) so..... no OP Blink isn't useless. I still see it often, and it's still effective. Sounds like a you problem, not a destiny problem Counters? Shoulder charge? If they are running straight at you, you know it's coming. Back pedal and focus your fire, or jump.... i mean literally do anything besides stand there and get destroyed. I can handle it, and I'm bad at PvP.... i've even used a sidearm to kill a shoulder charging titan. *gasp* Lightning Grenades? Walk around them, find an alternate path. Did that mean ol' titan use it to deny you access to that control point? Well you could cry about it... or you can back pedal, shoot the grenade, and take the flag anyway. Pretty simple. Titan Skating? Fusion Rifle, Side arm, Supers, Auto rifle, Scout rifle, Pulse rifle, HMG, Rockets, Melee, Your own shotgun, Blink, hide.... literally everything can counter this.
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Editado por Dregslayer: 5/24/2016 11:13:55 AMIf you use twlight you have to restart your charge for shoulder charge. Also shoulder charge is easy to stop if you see it coming. One good shotgun blast can take you down. So most likely 1/10 times you'll be shotgun and just shake your head in shame. If you don't have a shot gun just shot him. If you see him and he's more then 3...4 seconds away you shouldn't have a prob killing him. Lightening grenades were already nerf so...their super like shoulder charge you have to get close in most cases. So you see them coming...no prob. Also most likely you'll only get one kill out of it for super shutdowns. Unless you're sneaking or lucky. Another thing their melee is the shortest in the game. If you think strikers are op then you're a noob BC you don't know the diff between a good class and a good player. Good players can take the worse class and make it shine. The worse players can take the best class and make it fall. Then they complain BC they think it can't be me....most be that op class!! Nerf
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#3 is the only good point you have. It should also go for Warlocks. Everything else is just you being a biased crybaby.
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How to beat shoulder charge if you have Khepri's sting. When you see fast approaching on radar, go invis. Slide past titan. Backstab. Repeat. Hunters Tripmine Bullets + throwing knife to head region Golden gun Shotgun Blink Flux grenade Smoke bomb Shadestep Etc I havent actually played warlock since i prefer only having one character but if anyone wants to add go ahead.
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1 RespuestaThe downside to shoulder charge is that you have to be sprinting, so you are a big, hulking, defenseless target. If you can't kill them, that's on you. If you didn't have time to kill them, they would have killed you regardless of shoulder charge.
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1 RespuestaIf Shoulder Charge uses a melee charge then I want to be able to activate it with R1 at any time like every other melee
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5 RespuestasSurely I'm not the only one that knows if you see a titan frantically running at you hardly or not shooting at all he's going to do one of three things; 1. Skate + Shotgun 2. Shoulder Charge 3. Fist of havoc The answer? Put them down before you let them get close enough, not nerf or balance them, they are fine just the way they are with these things as they all require a titan to take a risk by closing gaps and/or not shooting. However, I agree with lightning grenades as I'm sure any sensible titan would agree they are extremely potent, the damage is insane and that range really catches you off guard so I think a small nerf to its damage/range offset by a buff to the other 2 grenades would be perfect.
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Based on all these comments and [i]your[/i] responses to them, sounds like you're a whiny little bitch who can't handle being told down. Just admit you're wrong and know nothing John Snow. And using Crucible playtime to try to "validate" your "balance" complaint is [b]Idiotic[/b]. See what i did there with the bold? There is a much larger difference in [b]seeing[/b] how something works compared to actually [b]using[/b] how something works. Of course, I guess that's something you'll never understand because, unless you actually play Striker for yourself, which doesn't seem is going to happen, you're just making rash complaints to try and nerf something you have no idea how it works. It's like yelling at Bungie because one day your character can't crouch and they tell the community there's a bug preventing players from crouching and you think "Oh it's so simple, why the hell are they taking forever to fix something as simple as crouching." Truth is, it's not simple. No line of coding is simple, even if the action the coding presents seems simple. Anyways, carry on little bitch.
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10 RespuestasAll the titan mains are making me laugh. If you complain about firebolt ill complain about Shoulder Charge.
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Are you freaking serious? This is the most pathetic post ever anyone who thinks strikers or titans in general are over powered have a few screws in their head loose. I have to say that I completely disagree with your post.
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Love a good shoulder charge kill i do
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Git gud. All im going to say. If you cant even kill a striker, there is no hope for you.
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striker is op sunsinger is op nightstalker is op [quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][spoiler]everything in this game is op. get over it or play a different game[/spoiler][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]
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You just disgrace Warlock community son. Drink your milk and go sleep...
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3 RespuestasYou don't have a Titan. Why don't you make one yourself and go and try to shoulder charge and be op with a Titan. It's not gonna happen warlocks and hunters are better than Titans. There are so few people that are good at Titans that it comes down to player skill.
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1 RespuestaEditado por yam: 5/23/2016 2:12:03 AMI was about to point out all of the reasons why this post is literally incorrect, but then I realized that op has [b][i]8 hours[/i][/b] of gametime on his titan... maybe use the -blam!-ing class before asserting that it is unbalanced...
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6 RespuestasThey should nerf firebolt so they can only do burn damage, no initial damage, voidwalker melee should have a cool down on the basic melee, to keep them from outranging enemies in melee fights, nova bomb should lose half its damage the farther it flies, storm caller melee and super should heal enemies. Throwing knives should have a 50% chance of not doing damage, because of the handle, Night stalker shouldn't get quiver, smoke should only blind and do nothing else, blade dancers should have their blink strike have the chance of missing enemies. See how biased your stupid post sounds, you have no data to support the fact something is op so don't even bother, even my post has better logic in it than yours
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4 RespuestasI smell a whiner who tried to use a Titan and couldn't hack it... Sorry kiddo, it's not for everyone.
