[quote]I never claimed it was a new idea. I bashed on your gaming experience by comparing it to the Dark Zone. of course I am fully aware since I also play Division. and this is quite different than Division dark zone. also making Ghally so hard to obtain should remove the "max ghally or quit". it won't be something many will obtain due to the difficulty of it. we are talking about a raid boss fight with other players fighting you as well. and Ghally was just a mere example, or idea. it could be used for tons of stuff, of course only the best of the best (again due to the difficulty) this really is nothing like the Dark Zone[/quote] Bashing people for comparison isn't a good thing to do. I also play The Division.... Dark Zone is PvEvPvE. How is this different a part from being in more atune to Destiny's style? Making something harder to get won't make the "elitist attitude" better towards it Raid boss? The accessibility of this would be the lowest yet, lower than raids and PvP since not everyone likes PvP, and not everyone is able to raid. (If it's going to be that hard you'll need communication like in a raid) There are also going to be problems with people stealing (boss) kills, just camping with snipers just to name a few. Imagine your team nearly kills it after quite some time just to be wiped out easily by two guys with supers, who go on to kill the boss. Or sat there using these new powerful weapons? Bad enough there where PvP objectives for PvE content in year 1, they should not interact with each other We also have enough methods to get endgame level gear. However in my opinion it would be better if there was a bi-weekly PvE event similar to IB that rotates whenever IB isn't on.

2 guys won't be able to kill the boss. see you just don't understand. in the Dark Zone. you fight enemies for gear (sometimes players), but you fight for gear that is everywhere, completely average, nothing gear. it really isn't comparison at all. and the Dark Zone is an actual area where it happens, you could be doing nothing and get shot down by someone. that again isn't the case here. your comparison is very faulty. and again you keep saying "endgame gear" from other methods, you aren't understanding the concept at all. Edit: when something is extremely rare, a rare that I am guessing you never experienced yet in your gaming life. people don't make it a gate into something.

[quote]2 guys won't be able to kill the boss. see you just don't understand. [/quote] This is where you missed the point. Kill stealing. The team of six whittle the boss down, then the two wipe them out and kill the boss when it has a very low HP. [quote]in the Dark Zone. you fight enemies for gear (sometimes players), but you fight for gear that is everywhere, completely average, nothing gear. it really isn't comparison at all. [/quote] So, your idea you fight a boss for gear. So the same thing, but instead of spread out focused. Making a chaotic area of PvP and PvE being blended in. Same can be said near named enemies in the Dark Zone when different groups of people collide, only this'll be far more frequent since its one boss. It doesn't matter in the quality of said gear, you're doing the same thing. Kill bad guys, get loot, kill or be killed by other players at the same time. [quote]and the Dark Zone is an actual area where it happens, you could be doing nothing and get shot down by someone. that again isn't the case here. your comparison is very faulty. [/quote] So, this boss PvEvPvE event won't be in an actual area? So, where will it be? If in Patrol, then it'll have to be off the beaten track (so low levels or people passing through just don't get sniped), and therefore have its own area as not to interfere with the current enemies in that area. You go into the Dark Zone knowing what could happen, like Crucible. This sounds like the same, you go up to the boss area knowing what's in store. I'm pretty sure people will shoot you if you're standing still in the Crucible, don't see why that'll change. [quote]and again you keep saying "endgame gear" from other methods, you aren't understanding the concept at all[/quote] I think you missed the point again. That is me questioning the need to have another method for said gear since you keep talking about "the best" gear etc.

you could, very easily, make it so others can't damage the name if they aren't on your team, and if your team dies the name will reset. completely voids any attempts at "kill stealing" and no, that's not my idea at all. again you completely miss the whole concept. you need to go out and play some more games, broaden your horizons :P

[quote]you could, very easily, make it so others can't damage the name if they aren't on your team, and if your team dies the name will reset. completely voids any attempts at "kill stealing" [/quote] So then, a hard boss that it's health is reset every time the current team dies? Then only full fireteam would be able to compete. Then people will sit on their supers to keep wiping the other team and the boss will never die until people get satly enough to leave. People will always find ways to abuse any system [quote]and no, that's not my idea at all. again you completely miss the whole concept.[/quote] Then explain it. So far its this at the basic level, kill boss in said area In said area other people can hurt you Is that not it then? Did you see my points about accessibility? Or the need for this to be so "elite"? [quote]you need to go out and play some more games, broaden your horizons :P[/quote] Oh I do? Is it because I disagree with your idea, with logical point which you decided to ignore? Maybe you need to explain things a little better, try not to bash other people for thinking differently Also, try not to assume things either. Maybe just go play some more Division? They have a Dark Zone there ;)

lol you are just so bad at thinking of what this actually is, idk how many times I have to say the exact same thing it's Supposed to be a disadvantage for the people fighting it. and it's not because you disagree that you need to broaden your horizons, it's because your horizon is very narrow it seems at the moment. probably a youngster

[quote]lol you are just so bad at thinking of what this actually is, idk how many times I have to say the exact same thing it's Supposed to be a disadvantage for the people fighting it. and it's not because you disagree that you need to broaden your horizons, it's because your horizon is very narrow it seems at the moment. probably a youngster[/quote] - You clearly didn't explain it well or have it different in your head, perhaps an "ideal" version in your head. It's ok very common to not see details that may produce problems in your head. I do too, which is why I always write down my ideas so I can criticize it to work out any problems. - Its supposed to be a disadvantage? Making it even easier to be griefed. Doesn't sound like fun - Broaden horizons you say? Then why don't you take what I've said on board and consider things? All the aspects, not just what this ideal version you have in your head with no faults at all. Narrow? How? Narrow because this doesn't fit with the game? It'll work well in other games, maybe one you already play..... And you tell me to broaden my horizons after you suggest a very similar endgame activity that is very very similar (mechanically) to another game you play. I really do suggest Wolfenstien: The New Order, on sale in the PS store right now, great stuff. Might go for a Platinum Also Worms Batteground is great with friends. Probably a youngster? If I am a "youngster" then he can think more logically and keep cooler than you, who bashes the first person to say they don't like it. Don't try and make it personal, it only shows you don't have much left to say.

lol it wasn't personal at all, I was just saying how narrow your gaming experience has been. you only confirmed it now suggesting those 2 games, has nothing to do with the fact that you disagree. but I am done, I can't keep saying the same things again and again to someone that doesn't understand. my only hope is that you play more games eventually