TL;DR at the bottom (Yw)
You know what dominates the crucible?
Snipers
You know what is used more than anything else in the crucible?
Snipers
You know what should be nerfed because of this?
Snipers
Now don't get me wrong, I myself use snipers so I feel like I actually have a valid opinion in this matter.
I like sniping, know why? It's real -blam!-ing easy, not just because this game has super high aim assist, but because there are perks you can get on snipers to INCREASE aim assist, making this simplistic task, mindlessly easy.
Now I imagine some (all) of you snipers out there will disagree with me because snipers are a precise weapon, they are, but bungie made them too precise and powerful.
Such as shotguns last year.
I was there, I loved my matador and the action filled gameplay with both opposing sides rushing each other dueling it out man to man.
But now...
Everyone sits back and snipes.
Where's the fun in that?
I guess if the shotgun meta was something you called for a nerf on, but you arent calling for a nerf on this, I understand. It sucks using an easy gun to dominate a team.
Now, it may seem like I'm just bashing with no solutions in sight, but fear not, here are some ideas to fix this boring meta.
1. Stop Rez-sniping all together, either increase immune time when revived, or make decrease sniper HS damage across the board so they cannot one shot anyone with an over shield.
2. Do not give ammo at the start of games, or, if you do, do not drop special throughout the match but start with full ammo
3.Greatly increase recoil on snipers
4. Buff something else *cough* shotguns, and in turn, keep snipers where they are
5. Remove hidden hand (the ultimate HS crutch)
6. Don't like my suggestions, come up with something better other than "stop whining" this is my first complaint post my entire time being apart of this toxic/cancerous community.
7. Make more counters to sniping, make it less effective at close range (not mid-long)
8. Make sniping like halo, if you get shot (should only be a headshot for this) you go out of your scope
edit - spelling
edit 2 - suggestion #5
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I knew that when making this post i'd see 4 types of people explicitly
1. Someone who agrees or disagrees with me but doesnt offer any solutions themselves
2. People who agree or disagree with me that offer real criticism and solutions (the mvps)
3. The trolls
4. the people who bring my stats into this arguement, my personal favorite because they have nothing to offer and have shit all against me :)
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it seems most of you dont want a nerf (i was once like you as well inb4 year 1) and i understand why that may not seem like a good idea to you, I too believe buffing other weapons to create more diversity in the PvP atmosphere is a great idea
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if you havent read the entire post and start commenting absolute BS, just know you're a moron
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suggestions
TL;DR sniping should reward those who are good, weapon balance is almost spot on as of post April update, primaries need a buff, most popular suggestions for snipers
1.remove hidden hand
2. Increase flinch when being shot
3. Add scope sway
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3 RespuestasYou know what's annoying? Nerf threads. You know why? 99% of them are just butthurt. You know what our solutions are? Mute and report them.
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1 RespuestaHas anyone else considered that maybe it's their own fault that they get sniped by some bushwookie? Just me? I'll see myself out then.
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Editado por Mega XX Gun: 5/5/2016 2:05:13 AM-blam!- your shotguns I mean really shotguns are still a dumb powerful weapons keep snipers as they and nerf shotguns cause they are the reason I rage and why most people rage
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13 RespuestasRealistically, all they really need to do is add descope on precision hits. Maybe not one precision hit, that might be too excessive. A string of 2-3 precision hits maybe, depending on the gun's impact/range?
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Bungie: [quote]sniping should be harder at close ranges[/quote] Me: *gets quickscoped from 4 feet away* Okay Bungie thanks for trying I guess.
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5 RespuestasYou don't know anything about sniping. If you did you would know how little AA actually does. You just sound like all the other babies on here.
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1 RespuestaLet's go back to the almighty pulse rifle meta!
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I like these options. Snipers should get alot more flinch when being shot in the face. Snipers should NOT be able to shoot you in the head while being domed several times by ANY weapon. It is too easy to use and a crutch.
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The -blam!-ings body shot dmg is the problem
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9 RespuestasRemove the hidden hand perk from all snipers like they did shot package on shotty's. Blur the view when the object is not in the optimal range for the equipped scopes. Exotics are the exception to this. Force reloads like nlb but remove the run glitch. Instead of small flinching, have head shots take you out of ads. Or just leave them alone and give everyone their ammo back as it did nothing but screw with pve.
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So what you're saying is nerf fusion rifles? Got it.
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Editado por Tricksten17: 5/5/2016 1:15:17 AMThis is stupid, I read this, I agree with pretty much nothing, I don't think you know what aim assist is and please just delete this topic, this is the type of cancer that everybody hates Also, stop Rez sniping? Something that bungie has blatantly said they purposefully said they wanted in the game?
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They problem I have with snipers is when I'm pelting them in the face with bullets from my PDX 45, MIDA, Hawksaw, etc and they still headshot me like it was nothing. Happened to me way too many times this iron banner. The only thing that needs to happen to snipers imo, is to make the reticle not reset to its original position after being shot at. You should have to manually readjust your reticle to land the headshot. But to address another one your points, snipers aren't dominating the crucible. Using a sniper doesn't give an automatic win button. They are not OP and don't really need a nerf. A good shotgunner will do better than a good sniper 9/10 times. Shotguns do not need to be buffed. The only things that really needs buffs are Hand cannon accuracy/range, low RoF Pulse rifles, and mid/low RoF Auto rifles.
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Editado por Daemon Jaeger13: 5/5/2016 12:58:10 AM[quote]Sniping: 1 or 2-shot you from afar Shotgunning: 1 or 2-shot you from point blank When you're killing someone with a sniper, odds are you're safe from most counter-attacks. Maybe a scout rifle will get you, maybe a pulse rifle, but most of the time there's very little risk to the sniper. Using a shotgun, however, requires you to traverse the entire range of weapon killzones. You have to get within sniping distance, you have to pass scout rifle sweet spots, you gotta dodge the pulse rifle bursts, you have to weave through auto rifle spray, you're exposed to sidearm peppering, you're gonna charge through fusion rifles trying to melt you, all the while grenades will certainly be coming at you, and at the end there's still the enemy's shotgun and melee and super to deal with. If you're owning with a shotgun, then you're IN that fight. Everything the enemy has can be used against you, that's the risk you're taking to blast them before they get you. If you're sitting all the way in the back with a sniper, then you're actively trying to avoid the danger. I'm not saying sniping doesn't have its place, but if you try to talk down to a shotgunner then you're just plain in the wrong.[/quote] ~CravenDescent While it's toward snipers...I think it stands here too.
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Editado por Jiggyfly1701: 5/5/2016 12:47:08 AMI feel like snipers do need 1 change, decrease body shot damage, just to stop the body shot switch to primary strategy. The idea of a sniper is to be precise, so you shouldn't be rewarded for missing your shot. Otherwise snipers are perfectly fine.
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If something else gets nerfed I'm quitting this game.
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They should have left scope zoom alone it was such a lazy and easy way that fixed nothing. They need to increase flinch from the front or add descope and return scope zoom to normal.
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2 RespuestasStop nerfing, buff to make people feel powerful instead of powerless.
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2 RespuestasIncrease flinch when being shot. Yes. There's been multiple times where I've shot at a sniper and still get hedshot by them in seconds. Yet, when I am sniping and getting shot, my flinching is way out of control. Even with the unflinching perk. I've never understood that.
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It's the maps/game modes. All game modes are heavily weighted toward a TDM style. Add in the openness of most maps and......you're getting sniped. Maybe add sway, maybe take people out of ADS when getting hit, but ultimately......you're still gonna get sniped by multiple people.
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1 RespuestaAm I the only person who just thinks they should increase the time for special to drop. I feel like special is SUPPOSED to be more powerful than your primary
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I Agree with you on PvP.
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1 RespuestaMuted because butt hurt
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1 RespuestaI have a couple of good suggestions. Unwind the changes to scopes and make it so a body shot is a 1 shot kill across the board. Increase aim assist as well.
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3 Respuestas-blam!-ing dumbasses on this forum
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That is all good, but the real question is when am I getting introduced into year two bungo? WHEN.