TL;DR at the bottom (Yw)
You know what dominates the crucible?
Snipers
You know what is used more than anything else in the crucible?
Snipers
You know what should be nerfed because of this?
Snipers
Now don't get me wrong, I myself use snipers so I feel like I actually have a valid opinion in this matter.
I like sniping, know why? It's real -blam!-ing easy, not just because this game has super high aim assist, but because there are perks you can get on snipers to INCREASE aim assist, making this simplistic task, mindlessly easy.
Now I imagine some (all) of you snipers out there will disagree with me because snipers are a precise weapon, they are, but bungie made them too precise and powerful.
Such as shotguns last year.
I was there, I loved my matador and the action filled gameplay with both opposing sides rushing each other dueling it out man to man.
But now...
Everyone sits back and snipes.
Where's the fun in that?
I guess if the shotgun meta was something you called for a nerf on, but you arent calling for a nerf on this, I understand. It sucks using an easy gun to dominate a team.
Now, it may seem like I'm just bashing with no solutions in sight, but fear not, here are some ideas to fix this boring meta.
1. Stop Rez-sniping all together, either increase immune time when revived, or make decrease sniper HS damage across the board so they cannot one shot anyone with an over shield.
2. Do not give ammo at the start of games, or, if you do, do not drop special throughout the match but start with full ammo
3.Greatly increase recoil on snipers
4. Buff something else *cough* shotguns, and in turn, keep snipers where they are
5. Remove hidden hand (the ultimate HS crutch)
6. Don't like my suggestions, come up with something better other than "stop whining" this is my first complaint post my entire time being apart of this toxic/cancerous community.
7. Make more counters to sniping, make it less effective at close range (not mid-long)
8. Make sniping like halo, if you get shot (should only be a headshot for this) you go out of your scope
edit - spelling
edit 2 - suggestion #5
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I knew that when making this post i'd see 4 types of people explicitly
1. Someone who agrees or disagrees with me but doesnt offer any solutions themselves
2. People who agree or disagree with me that offer real criticism and solutions (the mvps)
3. The trolls
4. the people who bring my stats into this arguement, my personal favorite because they have nothing to offer and have shit all against me :)
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it seems most of you dont want a nerf (i was once like you as well inb4 year 1) and i understand why that may not seem like a good idea to you, I too believe buffing other weapons to create more diversity in the PvP atmosphere is a great idea
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if you havent read the entire post and start commenting absolute BS, just know you're a moron
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suggestions
TL;DR sniping should reward those who are good, weapon balance is almost spot on as of post April update, primaries need a buff, most popular suggestions for snipers
1.remove hidden hand
2. Increase flinch when being shot
3. Add scope sway
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I don't think snipers are far off from what would make them "balanced". Personally I think the Efrideet was an excellent model for what snipers should be in the game: slow fire rate so follow up body shots are more difficult, low stability, and decent handling to go with it. I think people often forget the true causes of the issues they feel are needing a nerf. Last Word was "too good" so people ran rampant with shitguns. Shitguns were problems, so they nerfed them and people started keeping their distance with snipers. Pulse rifles were SO good they put other primaries to shame, -blam!-ed half the pulse rifles in the game and now most primaries are shit. Really if the primaries were better & more reliable, I don't think people would complain so much about special weapons. Make primaries great again!
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2 RespuestasLOL! Stop Rez sniping? Are you stupid?
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1 RespuestaRemove the "Competitive" tag, because this is not competitive at all
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4 RespuestasDo you even know how AA works on a sniper?
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1 RespuestaWhaaa whaaa whaaa the bad man shot me. Snipers need to be nerfed because im the bestest playa evarrrrrrr so the weapon that kills me must be broken.
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1 RespuestaSnipers are fine, you're just a bitch.
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No nerfs, all the other primaries that countered snipers need their buffs like the messanger archtype, red death, mida, and even thorn to keep hardscopers out of the fight
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heyheyhey a sniper kill me NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRDFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF [spoiler][i]Signed by the desticle[/i][/spoiler]
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I just sharted! :-D
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I don't even aim anymore lol all I do is quick scope. I thought they nerfed that but it seems easier then what it was before.
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1 RespuestaWhere are your stats to back up the idea that snipers are used more than anything else? I see a lot more shot guns than I do sniperS
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1 RespuestaEditado por Scoottrullo456: 5/6/2016 4:45:59 PMI read the entire thing and I think you're dumb as shit. Just another whiny bitch trying to get bungie to cater to what he likes. Doesn't work like that kid. Foh blueberry. And they literally nerfed them less than a month ago. Pretty harshly too. Give it a rest
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2 RespuestasLol their not nerfing snipers so stop being a baby
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3 RespuestasThere is nothing wrong with snipers. SBMM is the real issue and removing it should be priority
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2 RespuestasShut up, you moron.
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Scope sway would lead to reticle in hip fire, scope flinch is already big (use a sniper and get shot at, it hurts.), hidden hand just adds a bigger hit box and is not that serious
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The three suggestions at the end seem fair. I would only add a reduction to handling to that list. As long as they don't add descoping, I don't think it's necessary if they add, sway, more horizontal flinch and reduce handling. I feel the folk hard scoping corridors are using the sniper as intended, it's just too easy to keep fire on your target when they actually got the drop on you.
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I run a minus kd and i dont care about snipers i think you dont know or cant remember that they allready nerfed them. my perfect ldr has now the *#%!^@ scopes i can imagine. Snipers are good and pvp is fun again! I played 2 weeks with a fusion and i saw shotties snipers and here and then another fusion seems pretty balanced for me. Shotgun Lobby -> get away Sniper Lobby -> get close Nerf this nerf that -> get out of the game
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1 Respuesta#planC ...anyone who's used it after the patch knows what's up.
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They need a decrease in handling, sway when you move, and they should finch more when shot. Flinch should be to the sides and not up and down. Snipers are supposed to be clunky and not as mobile as they are now. It's just ridiculous.
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Maybe Bungie Could tone down the high aim assist? I see the reason why people use snipers and are effective with them but I think that it also helps due to the small and medium map design
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2 RespuestasEditado por Hyperjaz: 5/4/2016 7:07:13 PMMade snipers [quote]too precise[/quote] wtf does that even mean?