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Editado por Graiggy:
4/19/2016 1:41:36 AM
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Where did the stuff come from to create the speck of dirt that was the cause of the "big bang"? And take a look at our eye ball. To see correctly millions of little nerves have to grow from our eye to millions of nerves that grow from our brain. If one is off we cant see. Tell me thats chance.
P.s. I could not understand your argument. You seemed to be just rambling
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Editado por Sabre013: 4/20/2016 3:13:15 AMWatch this. If you're lazy, just watch from 30:00 minutes onward as that's what's really important here but he is right. You go on about how great the human eye is but you don't realize just how blind we are. This world isn't here for us. Stupid design argument is also great in general. Please educate yourself before you try to fight science.
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So your argument is "I don't understand the big bang" and "I don't know how eyes evolved so you're wrong". You didn't actually address the argument, all you did was answer with more questions and with said questions you showed that you do not have enough knowledge on the subject to hold this debate.
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Yeah I have no clue how an eye works.... thats what I said... you have no argument here as you are simply trying to make it sound like I said something I didnt. You didnt explain to me.where the matter that created the speck came from either. So I take you dont understand
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Fine, even though your argument is fallacious and does not deserve a response I'll give you one: your argument is based on the premise that the laws within this universe may be applied as an external force acting upon the universe (matter can't be created nor destroyed). The problem with this is that there's no evidence nor reason to believe that outside of this universe those laws apply so it is entirely possible that the matter simply came to exist for absolutely no reason. Another possibility is that the universe created itself so that the universe could create itself, this is known as a causal loop paradox.
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You could ask the same about God, who would be infinitely more complex.
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Yes but at least the Christian religion admits to him being infinite. Where as most evolutionists who claim there has to be a beginning to everything cant explain where thier dust comes from.
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The big bang has nothing to do with evolution. There are plenty of explanations for how the eye could have evolved. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/01/1/l_011_01.html
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And the big bang theory is one of the beliefs that some evolutionists believe in. There are many theories. But none can be proven without a doubt. As for the eye. Im sorry I cant believe that it would be chance that I can see.
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Editado por ttv/RitzyCheese: 4/20/2016 4:34:05 AMYou can see the beginning of the universe and the big bang, by the way. All you have to do is use a really powerful telescope in space and poof, you have a time machine looker. You can also pick up its background radiation whenever you turn on a radio and get white noise. But alas if we zoom in far enough to see the beginning of the universe, and a sign appears that says "gotcha" or "if you're reading this you're too close", I'll consider your belief a legitimate option.
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First of all, it's not a belief. it's as much a fact as atomic theory or cell theory. Second, it doesn't matter if you believe it. Your beliefs have no bearing in reality.
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It is a belief however. Was anyone there to record the happenings? Have we been able to duplicate this evolution is a lab? And im not talk micro evolution where a bird adapts to its surroundings. Im talking where a single cell organism develops into a human being. Just as the Christian religion is based off faith due to us not being able to record the events of the creation theory. Evolution is also simply a belief based off faith that we came from some single cell organism.
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Editado por BenjyX55: 4/20/2016 2:38:27 AMPhysical evidence always beats eyewitness accounts. There is no micro evolution. It's like you're referring to a raindrop as "micro water". Water is water, and evolution is evolution. And evolution is not faith. It's fact, whether you accept it or not.
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Micro evolution is in fact an actual thing. Before diving into a debate please at least know how to defend your point. And never before has evolution been proven. Because nothing has ever become something else entirely. See most adaptations are already preprogrammed into the genetics of animals.
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Pretty much everything you just said was false.
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You have yet to provide evidence that I am in fact wrong. Just that you say I am. It is in fact proven that evolution is only a hypothesis that has yet to be confirmed.
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Evolution is a theory. This is common knowledge. The fact that you can't differentiate between the two shows that you do not have the level of scientific literacy required for this conversation. The image above is Tiktaalik, a creature whose fossils were found a few years ago. It is a link between fish and amphibians. That alone is more proof than I have ever seen from the anti-evolution crowd.
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The difference between you and I is that I am willing to listen to the other side. Whereas you have already proven your ignorance by stating from the start that my belief is irrelevant. As for you fish/amphibian id like to see the study on them. It sounds like a good read.
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I have proven no such thing. You have not given any substantial arguments for your point. You have only shown that you don't understand scientific inquiry. http://tiktaalik.uchicago.edu/
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You keep saying that. I have said from the beginning that Christians believe what they believe by faith. How can I prove God exists when he cannot be seen? As for evolution until I see some kind of creature turn into another creature then maybe ill believe.
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Again, you completely misunderstand science. We have observed the changes, so we know that they happen. We have found the fossils, so we know what path they took. We have DNA evidence that links closely-related species. That is worth more than witnessing the change. You've never seen an atom either. You've never seen an electron. Why do you accept those but not evolution?
