Before the update I would finish the raid on reset day or day or two later. Those days most players with experiance in the raid are playing so joining a random group was not an issue. Doing the raid in the weekend would mean more mistakes, more wipes, longer finishing time. After the update new players have easier time getting high level gear so inviting players based on light level is a double edged sword. Now its harder to find good players on refresh day. Same happened after HoW and CE raid. Suddenly you were playing with raid nubz and wiping in places you didn´t think was possible. Yesterday I joined a random group on my oryx checkpoint. In theory it should only take about 15 min to finish but o'boy. A kid joined us with around 317 light and was like "yeah I know the raid" & "and I know what i´m doing" But after mistake after mistake and then him finally admitting that he had never finished Oryx before, I was suppricingly calm when I booted him from the fireteam. I´m not a person that does that. I remember when I was low light and wanting to finish oryx for the first time. I finished Oryx on hard for the first time when my hunter was 305, got kicked from couple of groups just because of my light level but when a group accepted my skills instead of focusing on light, finishing was a breeze. After playing with that kid yesterday I´m going to do things differently, if you are high light and lie about your knowledge of the raid, you are getting kicked. Two mistakes and your out. Plain and simple. Edit: Read my post again and I really look like an asshole but to clarify: [b]If you lie[/b] about your knowledge and skill and make a whole group wipe over and over again, you can't expect NOT to get kicked.