***THIS IS A LONG POST*** (I am long winded as you know) MY THOUGHTS ON THE RECENT ATTENTION IS FIRST. TO PASS MY THOUGHTS ON THE SOUR GRAPES SCROLL DOWN TO THE BREAK. ADMIT IT, YOUR JUST HERE FOR THE WINE ANYWAY. So we all have seen the uneducated posts. The class is broken, unfair, can't be countered and it even turns mortals into KD monsters. These beasts freely stalk and prey on the innocent players of destiny. Before anyone over reacts I mean that in an honest way. I even argued with a YouTube blogger who swore there was no counter to Bolts? People show their profiles proudly or degrade your stats in defense to the their arguments. Crazy to me the amount of notable people that are completely miffed by these. That's why I posted a bet nothing would happen and here we are. Even still people are clueless to ways to evade/reduce/counter and to speak of them is a fight. Meanwhile Bungie threw a cookie and a sorry note about the class. This should make some people curious or want to know more. Incredibly it did the opposite. It now serves as proof Bunige is the evil puppet master. protecting their beloved puppets while shunning the others in shame. I think a lot of these people use it only for cheese and nothing else. They have a trials warlock in the closet somewhere. They dust it off come trials and proceed to abuse perks on each other. Then they run back and cry that it is too strong because they do it all the time. Probably unaware they are creating their own problems. This was likely a build passed down and carried on. Some blogger, YouTube guy or friend they respect showed them. Monkey see monkey do and here we are. The ones that like another class don't care to find out why it works this way. It's broken in their minds and always has been. If you justify it then it's because you are a singer. Or your KD shows your not smart enough to know what your saying. On the other side are ones that play the class because they like it. I know myself I went from hating it all year one to only playing it. The builds are what made me have fun. Stacking the right gear/stats/weapons/perks could make so many strategies. It took a lot of bad ones to get good ones but i learned the game and the class. Probably why I am amazed the players that tote their resumes and then say bolts are too good for them to beat. Unfortunately egos are bruised and pride has kicked in. Some are curious but large majority seem fixed. Their ears and eyes are closed now as they lick their wounds. I'm bored and that always leads to some mischief in my house. Best way to learn a class is to sit down and master it. When that option is gone then being attacked is the next best thing. People seem to think support is term for healer or player to player aid. The ones that get passed that get lost at the neutral aspect. I'm waiting to hear one tell me what they think a Support Class with Strong Neutral game means. I played my son's striker and they are very similar to me. However instead of strong neutral perks they favor more aggressive tatics as the distraction. I laughed to myself thinking of how funny it would be to actually abuse these classes. So I would like to make actual cheese builds if I can. Starting with Singer I am looking for input on actual ways to help the architect and puppet master fulfill his evil work. Muhahahaha ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm bored and these boards have become more amusing than playing. So let's make some mischief. Hopefully the humor is not lost or taken personal. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Most people feel burn is unfair. So I am looking for fellow warlocks to provide builds without these perks. I prefer the most cheap and unfair tatics that can be used in volume. We are already considered abusers so let's embrace it for fun. I was thinking of the melee. The changes made were to help players feel equal in close combat. How can I turn that around? First thought was the Push feature. Exotic - Claws Stats - Max strength and discipline Far from a complete build. Has anyone ever spammed this to knock people out of bounds, off cliffs, etc. I love solar grenades maybe equip them with double grenade perk. Throw grenades behind players or a group and push them into the burn? Also does it work on supers? Can I hit a roaming super away or a titan out of his bubble? Brimstone This will make a target explode if killed by scorch. Same gear/stats/grenades Target players in groups (Zones/Heavy/Choke points/Rift). Lay down double grenades first and rush the middle players. Can the radius reach the group so the remaining players die or burn in the grenades? If I equip longer radiance will all my one hit kills explode while I have double grenades and iron skin? Fusion grenade spam Exotic - Starfire Stats - Max Int/Dis Special - Res This is already a build and attaching fusion is evil on its own. I have seen it used but for perks I need some help. Angel of light seems useless to me. I hate how I float already and sitting in the sky for all to see seems unsafe. But burn on a fusion seems silly. Maybe another exotic would be better? Also would I benefit more from high agility to dart in and out of cover as I launch them? Or use double grenade perk and apotheosis veil? Throw two, if I die should I self res and have 2 more right away? I can go on and these can be combined to an extent. I would really like some advice and video if you have it. Maybe you will join the fun and experiment with it also. Sometimes people forget how much we put into that burn and how little it actually does in turn. 1 grenade, 2 perks and I still have to shoot you to make a kill is cheap? Imagine the look on their face when the throw a bolt that my gear counters. Then return to fusions and a happy meal to the senders lol. YOU WANT WINE? GOTTA CRUSH THE GRAPES FIRST.