hung jury really is only good for people who get a hardon over firefly and triple tap. neither work well together, so its just a generally good gun. I wont knock it, but people are too fanatical over it. You want a gun that is strong in all avenues of play then id suggest Not Like The Others scout from vanguard. One thing to remember is guns are archetypes, and NLTO is a different archetype then Hung Jury if i remember right, this makes comparing them via the stat bar useless, in fact even if they were the same, comparing via stat bar is misleading. for instance, hung jury vendor has much higher stability then NLTO however in practice it has insane hip fire ability from ranges it shouldnt, it has more visual kick, but its purely visual you dont really lose your aim. Here is why i like vendor NLTO reactive reload/crowd control/explosive rounds...its such a rediculous combo in general. from pvp to PVE. the combo results in me staggering shielded cabal, staggering GROUPS of enemies repeatedly, staggering enemies keeping them from using specials (like the damn defender bubble some taken vandals use) and it actually does MORE damage to red bar enemies. it does slightly more damage to regular enemies (people try to dispute that but its true)...the thing it doesnt do? vastly more damage on precision hits, but the bonus explosive damage makes up for it (it doesnt actually do less damage on precision hits either thats been proven as well) why is it easier to sue then hung jury despite lack of stability? it has some of the highest aim assist in the game. and due to explosive rounds it always crowdcontrols while firefly requires a precision kill to stagger. Ive used the hung jury archetype with near max stability triple tap and firefly...it straight up lacked in comparison to vendor NLTO when i actually used it. it will probably be my go to PVE scout for all of destiny.

FWC: The Villiany, The Vanity, Dead Orbit: Hung Jury, Patch-A NM: Objection IV Vanguard: Not Like The Others Crucible: Hawksaw, Havoc Pigeon Seem good? Got any to add/remove, make a case for??

Vendor weapons and armor will be the same just with chroma enabled Update: according to bungie's twitter account all vendor weapons and armor are getting a perk update

The fwc, do, nm, are staying the same, u can see in stream screen shots, same guns. Just adding a set of gear. No rush to buy guns, save your marks

The 1K stare in vendor its pretty damn good for pve