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publicado originalmente en:Offtopic Den
4/10/2016 11:38:49 PM
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The main way to beat bullying is to rampage on the bullies, I guarantee (through experience!) that hospitalisation is a good method. Unfortunately not an easy one, that's why it continues, maybe teaching kids how to fight is a way?
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Lol, I think fighting and physical retaliation is a last resort, don't want kids to think fighting solves everything because that creates entirely new problems. And some like me simply refuse to get into fights over anything.
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I was bullied for two years, it was people thinking strength in numbers, I hit one of them and that didn't work. The next day I came into school, one of them approached me, then swung a wooden pole at me (table leg) and I ducked, and beat the living shit out of him. I hated doing it, I didn't like it, but it worked. Nobody messed with me again.
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And perhaps that was the solution to your problem, and I'm glad it worked. Unfortunately, I know in my situation if I had retaliated like that I would have been the only one in trouble, and since I had had prior disciplinary actions and was trying to change myself I would have been screwed. So people like me, you have to think of other solutions.
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Every time I've had to do that I've gotten in serious trouble. Obviously people see sense in hindsight only. Which is annoying, but sometimes you have to bite the bullet, unless you'll get arrested then it's the most effective solution.
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I agree, I do, but some people just can't bring themselves to make that choice. That's all I'm saying, in those cases you have to teach them something different. And for me, mentoring kids at my school, if I told them to beat people up if they bullied them the school would have my ass lol.
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Fair point, and as I said, it's not easy to get angry enough to make yourself do it. I hate doing it, and you feel like shit after.
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Don't get me wrong, there were times I was literally shaking with rage and had to get away before I lost it, but that was my choice. My personal values I would rather let it all consume me before I fight back and hurt someone, even the people I hate most.
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I've got quite bad IED, so I'm easy to tick, not anymore but then I would, I don't like hurting, but I was getting to the point of suicide, so I decided to throw morals down, and either way, I follow the three laws of robotics (except for the last one).
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I'm sorry to hear that, and as I said, sometimes that is what it comes down to. I had thought about it before, but I was never seriously considering suicide. Maybe if I had started to, I would have beat them up but I basically did what the video ^ said, dismantled my emotions until I didn't feel anything. Nobody should have to go through any of this though, and although I would love anti-bullying to have a positive effect, we just need to teach these kids how to cope.
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That's a good plan... That, however, may further incite bullying.
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I'm not saying we should completely throw away anti-bullying really. It doesn't help all that much but we definitely need to be doing more.
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Maybe if there was an actual punishment for bullies, there's always a place in prison for them.
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Lmao, that might shut them up huh? Basically teachers and staff need to do their jobs and actually hold punishment for bullies.
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Well, after I went on my little rampage I told them what had happened. I included the fact that he'd decided to use a weapon. They said it was my fault for fighting back and not telling a teacher.
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Bullshit alert. Teachers can be so clueless. You don't tell them you should have. Tell them they don't give a shit, the bullies find out, and your life becomes a living hell. Show them you aren't afraid to beat them into the ground and you should have told a teacher. You can't win under those conditions, once again a reason we need to be reevaluating how we handle bullying.
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If we drop the anti-bullying and increase child protective's actual jurisdiction it'll be better.
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Yup, of course since everyone resists change it will be a hard road to hoe. Hopefully I can get it going in my own school, already changed a ton of stuff lol.
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Thing is, I'm trying hard to stay with a decent amount of friends, that means not coming out, not paying attention to things like bullying and doing a whole load of bad stuff. I don't think teachers, or most adults remember how devastating it is, to want to put the pressure on the kids.
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Not sure if I entirely understand what you mean but I agree, the older you get the more you lose sight of how it felt. I had it pretty bad, there are still noticeable taints on my personality from bullying, and yet I do find myself telling people to get over it because it will get better a lot. I'm going to try to stop doing that, and at the very least offer them someone to talk to, because I know I would have loved that, and I know a lot of people just need a friend.
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I mean that people keep telling kids to deal with bullying... Kids will do what they hate to not be bullied.
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I agree. It's unfortunate, but it has become somewhat of a cycle. Hopefully someday we can wake up and try to help instead of telling them to get over it. And to an extent I know I'm saying deal with it, but I'm saying more than just that, I'm saying we need to show them how to deal with it without consuming themselves in depression. If a kid can get through bullying, learn strategies from older kids or adults on how to cope, and get through it fine, then I think that is the ideal we need to strive for.
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Find a stress reliever, that one person who you could say anything to, nobody says these. And even then, nobody will suggest your girlfriend, or a sibling, always a teacher or a friend to tell... That's not gonna help.
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Once again completely agree. Actually, funny story, talking about friends? Told my best friend everything about bullying, ended up turning on me and joining in on the fun. Imo you have to choose someone like your parents, someone that will never betray you no matter what happens, because a person to go to with anything is nice but you don't want all those secrets spilling out on the floor.
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I picked my girlfriend, she spoke to me, and now I dare anyone to bully me. People can fortify you.
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And that's great, and I think having someone you can talk to about anything is insanely important, it can help you through even the darkest times. One of my friends on here has helped me with the biggest problem in my whole life, having someone like that can literally be a life saver.
