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4/4/2016 9:55:39 PM
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Nope I don't need to, but I'll give you a shot, what am I leaving out?
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You ignore any evidence that doesn't agree with your YouTube video of the day. Every time, every post.
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I'm still not hearing what I missed. Kinda hard to a dress if you don't tell me
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How about the Alberta guy down the thread a bit that gives a great example of how universal healthcare can work well? How about the countless good examples of socialized healthcare working well for European countries at much more reasonable costs? How about the fact that insurance companies and big pharmaceutical companies being the primary reasons for the ridiculous costs of American healthcare? It's not subsidies sorry bud, again you're misinformed.
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But you didn't post a YouTube video proving your point. Obvs fail. Jk
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Lol, damn
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It's the government subsidees that's driving costs up ever wonder why insurence costs skyrocketed after Obama care? It was affordable before and don't tell me how much weren't insured. I was one of them but out of choice, most who didn't have it didn't want it now I'm forced to pay for insurance. And no universal healthcare hasn't "worked" anywhere every country with it has iether their economies going down the tube, or long waiting lists like in canada, or both. There I adressed your bullshit
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Lol, you just proved my point. You ignore anything that doesn't agree with your feelings based stance. http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.PCAP?order=wbapi_data_value_2013+wbapi_data_value+wbapi_data_value-last&sort=desc We pay more than almost all of our European counter parts. Their economies aren't in the shitter for the most part. You state things that just aren't true. And for the majority of insurance holders costs didn't fluctuate much at all. Dramatic increases were the exception not the rule.
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Insurance has gone up, Obama care is less affordable then private insurance and covers less. on the other end my private insurance has gone up in price and covers less then it did 6 years ago
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Not really. Idiots. http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2014/10/31/key-study-on-obamacare-2015-premium-rates-is-out-and-you-wont-believe-whats-going-to-happen/#4680fb8c6c52
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Editado por Krispy Kreme Il: 4/5/2016 9:00:01 PMI work with insurance / the premium isn't what gets you / the deductible does. That being said its 10$ more then my private insurance and has a massive deductible with it 2500-5000 So you come in pay a copay then I bill your insurance an they send precent back that's your responsibility usually around 80-100$ a visit +your copay + your monthly premium Self pay usually runs around 64.00 on average -a idiot
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Depends on the plan bud.
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Editado por Krispy Kreme Il: 4/5/2016 9:14:48 PMThat's your argument?! Wow You understand I see more then one plan from the health exchange right? I also have family on it as well. I work billing for a private practice you how many phone calls I get "well did my insurance pay? "
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So your customer service, cool. You realize that's always been the relationship between premiums and deductables right? Your counter argument wasn't much to begin with. Just a statement that was true of insurance before Obama care and after.
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So when you post a article from Forbes that says [b]premiums[/b] are on track with private insurance nowhere does it include the [b]deductibles[/b] that come with the plan Forbes is telling half truths and your buying into it which is fine but in all actuality if you just paid out of pocket you could still go to your doctor that you like an save a crap load of money.
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Editado por EetnoAni: 4/5/2016 10:23:43 PMNow you're showing ignorance on just how much health care is costing folks. What's the average deductable you claim to see? Also, you bring a good point but no data. Again though, higher deductable plans would go to the younger healthier folks so they may never pay that much anyway. Forbes may miss some of the picture, but you're making some pretty big assumptions (without giving me any evidence).
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80/20 plans 2000.00-5000.00 So you pay 80% they pay 20% until that 2000.00-5000.00 is met at which point insurance covers 100%. Now mind you out of pocket cash pay for a well visit is around 140.00-200.00 sick visits 64.00 on average give or take if it goes thru the insurance it's then 700-800 for that one visit alone sick visits jump up to around 120-160 depending on what's wrong/ where as my insurance is 10$ cheaper a month it covers all medicine not just generic meds like health exchange an my deductible last time I checked was 1500.00 So I pay less/ I get the dr I want ( most private practices don't take health exchange insurance) I get the meds I have been using and don't have to switch that either and I save more money per year Now please provide some physical proof that proves that health exchange insurance is cheeper and no not just one or two plans that maybe a few people can get In 2015, your out-of-pocket maximum can be no more than $6,600 for an individual plan and $13,200 for a family plan before marketplace subsidies.
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And on average Americans are spending almost 9k per capita. Personally, my wife has narcolepsy. The two medications she needs would run us 30k per year alone... Suffice it to say we gladly pay the 5k deductable we have and think big pharmaceutical companies are the devil.
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I have narcolepsy, unless it's some kind of tranq I'd have her stop taking those meds from experience it makes it worse
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Editado por EetnoAni: 4/7/2016 9:51:13 PMYou are the last person I would listen to for medical advice. And the two meds she's on are actually going very well (been good for years now) without being harsh on her system. Eg not like ambien and ritilin
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It was just my experience and if it works great,don't stop, but don't dismiss any advice I give just because it's me I have extensive knowledge on drugs (hobby of mine) and in this case I'm a narcoleptic and we're a rare case most people don't have it
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5000 would be for an individual and I couldn't agree more about med company's being over price average single american (myself) pays around 1000 annually 9000 is for family's for private insurance. Per capita
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9K is the average spent per person on healthcare not the deductable
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And mine stayed the same...
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A lucky one you are
