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3/30/2016 1:24:54 AM
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How science and Christianity can coexist
So lately I've been "shoving my religion in people's faces" and ive seen evolution and other scientific things brought up by atheists. Well let me explain why they can actually coexist.
In the begging god created the heavens and the earth. I'm sorry but when I see God creating everything. I picture a big bang. With everything starting to exist from nothing.
The bible never says "on day one of creation." It says on the first day if creation. So on so forth. In my mind that means that there could have been hundreds,thousands,or billions of years between the 7 days.
In the garden it never says how long Adam or eve was alive and living there. And it never says that there wasn't more people alive in the world. Hence when Cain slew able he joined another village so we were already out of hunter gather mind set.
Bible also isn't a picture book. We don't know what form Adam and Eve took. Meaning they could have been the very first hominids. And not us modern apes.
And there are more examples I can give. Evolution and the bible can coexist with each other.
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Somebody once told me, "Science is our way to understand God's creation." What an interesting thought.
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Allah Fishbar *succ*
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Religion without Science is blind. Science without Religion is boring.
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They've been coexisting some ppl are just assholes
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cough cough [i]insect[/i] cough cough [spoiler]switch the [b]s and c[/b], op[/spoiler]
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In the begining blah blah blah I don't really -blam!-ing care as long as you accept evolution happened and the universe is 13.7 billion years old you could believe the world was made by Chuck Norris It would't really matter.
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3 RespuestasIs "God" omnipotent? If yes: [spoiler]If he is "Omnipotent", he is not all-good. Omnipotence is absolute power and knowledge, which means that he would have the ability to remove evil in the first place. This is a major contradiction, and it has has left me with the conclusion that there [i]may[/i] be some kind of god out there, but he is definetley not the christian god. My PERSONAL opinion is that he is half-and-half good and evil.[/spoiler] If no: [spoiler]Congratulations, you answered the only possible situation where he can be all-good. Of course, you're not christian if you believe this.[/spoiler]
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1 RespuestaI imagine god is like a simcity ps1 player. Leave it running all night while you sleep and see what happened when you wake up.
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3 RespuestasWho cares whether or not there is a higher power? Anything could happen so nothing can disprove either Christianity or Evolution.
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1 Respuesta[spoiler]April fools?[/spoiler]
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Or maby, just maby [spoiler]The "events" in the bible are stories to help form a moral code and didn't actually happen[/spoiler] Also [spoiler]Cain was the reason there is death in the world, so if there really was a Cain, there couldn't be another tribe with a hunter mindset[/spoiler]
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1 RespuestaYou're just going to have to dump the entire Old Testament, man. There is no explaining the conspicuous lack of dinosaurs, human beings living hundreds of years, and the total lack of physical evidence for a global flood. The problem with that, however, is that if the Old Testament is left behind, then the entire point of the character of Jesus ceases to make sense, because without a pre-existing covenant with the Jews, there is nothing for Jesus to extend to the Gentiles, and the prophecy of the virgin birth has no connection to Jesus anymore.
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So lately I've been "shoving my religion in people's faces" and ive seen evolution and other scientific things brought up by atheists. Well let me explain why they can actually coexist. [quote] In the begging god created the heavens and the earth. I'm sorry but when I see God creating everything.[/quote] Very true
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Editado por TheGreatReebok: 3/31/2016 11:44:22 PMIf they can't, evolution is right. I'll give you a segment of my rebuttal from a debate a wrote a few weeks ago for school. How can you believe something that is based off of a book and people's imagination? Creationism has people arguing on facebook whether Jesus was black or Muslim, and has people going Church. Evolutionism has been proved countless times by countless studies by countless scientists. So, who is in the wrong? [i]~TheGreatReebok[/i]
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[quote]Conservatives, particularly in the U.S., are often painted as being generally anti-science for their stances on issues like climate change. Science, ironically, says otherwise. “It's wrong to say that one group devalues science more than the other,” says Ditto. “Both groups will accept scientific information if it supports what they want to believe, and they'll denigrate it if it doesn't.” Ditto points to a classic study from researchers at Stanford published in 1979, in which they presented subjects with scientific information that either suggested capital punishment deterred crime or that it did not. The study was the same, only the conclusions were changed. When asked if the study was a good study, the answers depended on the participants’ beliefs when they went in. “You saw this wonderful pattern where everybody thought that the study was much better when it supported their side, and they thought it was a less good study when it supported the other side,” said Ditto[/quote]
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11 RespuestasEditado por Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 3/30/2016 8:40:46 PMWhen it comes to god.... That which can be asserted without evidence, can also be dismissed without evidence. This makes it irrelevant when it comes to discovering and establishing truths about the universe. Which is what the scientific process is. So no, they can't coexist. Just making god the exception to everything we know at any given time is not a coexistence. There is nothing scientific about that. That's the opposite of the scientific process.
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So we can agree that the bible is not a literal account of what happened and is more of a metaphor for not being assholes to our fellow humans? And that old-testament God was a raging alcoholic who sobered up when he had a kid with some random married lady and then started preaching about sunshine and rainbows and the golden rule and helping the sick and needy?
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6 RespuestasUnfortunately they can't because god cannot logically exist. Humans have always attributed what they don't understand to the work of the gods. That is why there have been hundreds of deities dreamed up. All it really does is promote ignorance.
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3 RespuestasCognitive dissonance.
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15 RespuestasEditado por TheDankWeb: 3/31/2016 4:24:20 PM"God of the gaps !is all that is. We don't know what caused the big bang, so "god" did it. Your religion has been shrinking for years. Within 200 years I except Christianity to be gone. Edit: wrote this is a hurry.. Rewritten- [spoiler]"God of the Gaps" is all that is. We don't know what caused the Big Bang, so "god" must have been the source. Your religion has been shrinking for years. The time of rational thought and skepticism is upon us. I fully expect Christianity, as well as all forms of religion, to be equated to the belief in Zeus within 200 years. Pure fiction. [/spoiler]
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22 RespuestasEditado por Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 3/30/2016 6:35:05 PMThis has always been a temporary thing. All we've ever done throughout history is push god back further and further with every new thing we've learned. This makes god whatever humans don't understand at any given time. It means that god = human ignorance. It's not a coexistence. It's the concept of god fleeing from human knowledge. That's the only way any god, as a concept on the nature of existence, can survive.
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13 RespuestasLess of a co-existence, more of a religion being willing to admit thats its wrong about things that science has proven.
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4 RespuestasSimple: Science explains how said thing happened Religion explains why said thing happened
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I used to be a Christian, then I started actually being skeptical of everything about Christianity, having been told in church that you can't question it and must have faith. I actually thought about this. The creation story is a fundamental pillar of Christianity. Except when the universe was created completely destroys this. The bible says 6 or 7K years. It's been around much longer than that, billions. Science contradicts the bible, what you are purposive is cognitive dissonance, believing two contradicting ideas.
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Funny, I've just recently started thinking about this
