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3/23/2016 7:22:13 PM
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Why all the hate on the update?

It's free guys, and I'm honestly looking forward to it. New mission, new strike, knew light level, new gear, new quests. Calm down people.
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  • There is hatred, but remember: this is a multi-billion dollar industry which entails [b]corporate counter-intelligence, espionage, propaganda[/b], legions of [b]paid trolls[/b], and [i]all[/i] aspects of [b]cyber warfare[/b]. That means that a lot of these forum posts are designed to [i]control, infiltrate, manipulate, and warp[/i] online discourse in regards to Destiny. You’ve probably run into them before — those seemingly random antagonizers who always end up diverting the conversation in forum posts on Bungie.net or Reddit away from the issue at hand, and towards a much different agenda. Hot-button issues like lack of linear in-game storyline/content, game bonuses, overall demographic morale, corporate conspiracies, and even connection issues are among the most common targets of such attackers, known as internet “trolls” or “shills,” who in many cases are nothing more than paid lackeys hired by industry competitors and other international third-party organizations to sway and ultimately control public opinion. They have two main objectives, 1.) to inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets; and 2.) to use social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes it considers desirable. All in order to disrupt Bungie's own PR and propaganda devices, and to strengthen their employers market position. And while most of these posts are seemingly just from disgruntled kids who were never disciplined by their parents, there is a real science that was designed to guide their opinions to work directly against Bungie's efforts in every way imaginable. They coordinate online stratagem to create a popular opinion structure on a [i]massive[/i] scale and to directly influence an entire online population with dissent and misaligned cognition. And trolls might be generally right about a certain aspect in regards to whatever platform is inherent, but they solidify that opinion structure for you when they put it into words. And then it becomes your words. And then you say 'Yes, Bungie sucks.' Or 'I hate nightfall rewards.' And then it turns into 'I'm leaving Destiny and I'm going to go and buy The Division.' It's a War for your Mind. But ultimately, it's a War for your MONEY. (Or your parent's money.) So please don't feed the trolls...

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      I'm just happy for content.

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    • It's not free, you've already paid for it. You're just susceptible to marketing.

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    • Editado por PROCK7: 3/24/2016 3:35:40 PM
      [quote]It's free guys, and I'm honestly looking forward to it. New mission, new strike, knew light level, new gear, new quests. Calm down people.[/quote] I am glad we get more content in the form of new gear and quests. However I am not a fan of: 1) Bungie using the word "significant" to describe what is essentially a 4% light level bump. 4% or 15/320 is NOT significant. 2) Bungie reusing PoE rather than just redoing Crotas End or VoG is not the best move. I think the MAJORITY 65% or higher would have preferred ONE of those raids than PoE. If Bungie can add new modifiers, point system, re skinned enemies and new enemies to PoE, then why can't they do it for the old raids??? 3) This update is not "directly" paid for by players exchanging money for the content but supposedly a result of the money "indirectly" made from silver sales. So it's apparent they have less money BUT this was THEIR plan. Bungie had previously made two new strikes from scratch for the DLCs. This new strike SEEMS to be a rehash of old content with the Shrine of Oryx. If we end up fighting to it and Malak comes out of the same door as the original boss then that will be disappointing. I don't have high hopes for the strike not using the same area. Then again it may be "cut content" and there is a backside we never saw. Lol. 4) Edit: the PS special quest seems unneeded for a freaking update. That is a bit annoying.

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    • Editado por Blue: 3/24/2016 4:07:15 PM
      If you weren't around during HoW then I get why you're excited, but if you are a y1 player then wtf are you honestly excited for? I didn't expect much at all and Bungie was on the mark with what I expected. This is the Spring update? Really PoE re-hashed? They took out Skolas, the main boss from y1, and just added a scoring system? Does anyone remember how fun PoE was week 4 into HoW? Now I do think Bungie is going to raise the light cap during this update like they did in TTK but probably only by 5 light to get an even 340, but still I don't think they'll add anything after this update like new story or missions (maybe a time-gated exotic around E3?) I guess Bungie still have their Ace in the hole with Gjallarhorns y2 unveiling TBD, but still this update is trash. Destiny players are so starved for RNG drops and rewards I guess they'll accept anything? All I'm saying is from the look of how much fun the devs had playing it on their stream (sarcasm), this update is pretty much going to have everyone pissed off by May.

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        Because people are idiots who don't appreciate how long it takes to make a game.

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      • I'm pretty excited to be honest. I expected less than this. Also the new gear looks pretty neat.

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        • Cause no--blam!-ing-body asked for a shitty ass poe. And 15 new light is a joke. The update is a joke just like bungie

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          • Because this community is filled with obnoxious, shrieking children who aren't happy unless they're spreading discourse and irritation among others.

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            • People like to complain for the sake of complaining. You're a Y1 player man. C'mon you should know this already!

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            • I actually am really excited I enjoyed PoE, didn't love it but I did enjoy it. The renewed strike was my favorite in year 1 and the new Taken boss looks pretty Damn sick. It's great for $0 it costs. And the new sword or shotgun looks pretty cool too I would definitely grind for those or the shader. #[i]stophating[/i]

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            • We are bringing back crota's and and VoG "Gosh Bungie recycling old content. Boo" Alright here's a new level then "God Bungie I'm bored of it already. " Okay then. Here's some challenge modes "Too easy Bungie. We want a challenge" Alright well here's a crazy solar shield nightfall "TOO HARD BUNGIE GOSH THIS NEEDS TO BE EASIER" Ummmmm

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              • A Strike using old assets. PoE + Taken enemies, again, old assets. How thrilling! How exciting! Literally, [i]LITERALLY[/i], zero new content. The only reason they're releasing this is to say they shipped something out. Remember, Destiny 2 was supposed to come out late this year. They had delays so they moved it to next year. Because of this delay, the live team is pushing out recycled content over and over and over again because they have nothing to show. The majority of Bungie is working on Destiny 2 - in layman's terms, the game is dead until next year unless the Fall DLC is substantial. I'm not getting my hopes up.

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                • It ain't free. Deej said it himself "if you already own TTK you don't have to purchase it"

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                  • Because people have an unfounded sense of entitlement and are gereally under-appreciative of everything.

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                  • Me too. Plus, PoE is gonna be "fresh" for the next 4 months due to the rotating of bosses and modifiers. Yay!

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                  • It's the Internet, where the herd mentality rules. The herd in this sense seems to think that there should be amazing new content delivered everyday for a game that's been out for a year and a half. Those of us with reasonable expectations and a mild understanding of how real life businesses operate understand that the update is a good thing. It's an update to content we bought about 7 months ago. Sure it's not "free", if you pick nits. But honestly, if you haven't bought TTK by now, you probably aren't the customer Bungie is trying to court.

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                  • Same, I am excited for it, and for those butthurt by me being excited, clearly you need something to do with your lives

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                  • It's at no additional cost if you've bought TTK already.

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                  • I don't know dude the update looks bitchin so far and they're gonna show even more

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                  • It's not free if you don't own TTK.

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                    • Haters gonna hate.

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                    • Because you look cool when you hate bungie.

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                      • Because its not what I wanted. And its seems wrong. For example you can only get 335 gear from PoE or The Court of Oryx. The raid will only take you to 330. Its so amazingly backwards and the exact opposite of what people were hoping for.

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                        • Yep. Prison of elders was always fun. They fixed the worse thing about it. NOW there's check points, only 3 rounds, and that sniper looked great

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                        • Editado por RetroHaddock121: 3/24/2016 2:53:11 PM
                          What I hate about his community is that many people don't want to pay for content and this is FREE yet people are ASSUMING by the wording that they cut it from the original expansion. It's a free thing they gave us to keep us playing,it WAS NOT cut from the game.(some exotics might have been cut to be reworked or just cut from the game,that is not what I mean.)

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