Yeah I guess we'll see, I guess I'm a little too optimistic (given the track record) but it's just so hard for me to believe that this is it. After all the hype and let down, after all bungie has tried to do to keep everyone happy. Yeah they're a little deaf sometimes but overall this is a good game that could be great and I'm sure they see it that way too. I'm almost positive NOBODY at bungie was truly proud with what they released a year ago, but what are you gunna do, warn your customers that it's shit? I just have to believe they plan on making up for that.