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11/29/2015 10:25:43 PM
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I bought my PS4 for Destiny. In Day 1 I thought it was a great game.
Over time it got repetitive and boring. TDB gave it a bit of life for me, but I gave up completely before HoW.
I bought TTK a few weeks after release after a few reviews came out giving generally favourable critiques.
TTK is amazing - for a few weeks or maybe a month or two. Then it kind of becomes, well, 'meh'.
It's a great shooter. Always has been. If you just want a game with great graphics and a good feel of weapons in your hands, it's better than year 1.
But there is a huge problem with Destiny - it requires a team for the best content, and finding a team is getting harder and harder.
Basically, the Destiny community is total shite. At one end you have the elitists that won't raid with you unless you have 310 light, Touch of Malice, and Black Spindle. At the other you have a bunch of dip$hits here that just want to go on and on and ON about how crap Destiny is, Bungie is just Activision's biatch, PvE sucks, PvP suck, sunbreakers need a nerf, anyone that complains about sunbreakers is a cry baby that needs to git gud, blah, blah, blah.
I've all but given up on raiding. The way Bungie has constructed the Kings Fall raid makes it ripe for elitism. It's way harder to 'carry' a newbie through the raid. I consider myself a pretty decent PvE player. I've solo'd pretty much everything (including the final Touch of Malice quest). But Kings Fall is a freaking nightmare. I've had one team run me through to completion, and one other up to Oryx (which we just could not complete despite three of us having Touch of Malice) - We did have two other raid virgins though. Basically, you need five very experienced raiders to carry a newbie through - and even then, it is punishing and frustrating. Little wonder that LFG has become so elitist.
To sum up... The core mechanics of Destiny (as a shooter) are great. TTK story is a massive step up from year one. But reaching the last bit of content can be frustrating and downright depressing at times. Think carefully about why you and your friends would want to buy TTK... if you just want a fun, casual, way to shoot shit, buy it. If you are drawn to the idea of raiding and other end game content, I'm sorry but that ship has sailed - you will be forever disappointed.
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From nothing to 33% quality is a massive step up!
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Editado por k1sho-M5: 11/30/2015 2:39:31 PM"It got repetitive and boring" Lot's of year one players say this. But let's take you for example; almost 1000 hours of playtime. It's getting repetitive? No shit, lol. Put this time in any other game and it get's repetitive too. You probably don't have a game where you've spend this many hours on.
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Oh that is sad... 630 Hours on Vanilla + TDB. I quit before HoW. And now 300 Hours on TTK already. I need a life :(
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This dude has it right! Raids used to be the main reason to play but now it's a waste of time and finding a team that doesn't just scream at each other is impossible. Even if you do end up getting through it the drops are not great. Hard mode? Never did it no one is around to try it with anymore.
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[quote]This dude has it right! Raids used to be the main reason to play but now it's a waste of time and finding a team that doesn't just scream at each other is impossible. Even if you do end up getting through it the drops are not great. Hard mode? Never did it no one is around to try it with anymore.[/quote] I just made a clan because of this post.
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at one end you have lvl 298 with low impact sniper who has never completed any raid complaining that people who dont owe him anything are elitist
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Editado por Calris: 11/30/2015 12:25:33 PMWhat's one of my weapons got to do with it? And you are correct - nobody owes me anything - just like I owe nobody anything in return. The people I have raided with have invited me because I have help them - but I never felt I was entitled to a spot on their team. I don't ask to join a raid team and invitations are few and far betwewn because I lack experience. Kings Fall is not a raid anyone wants a 'newbie' in their team for - it's brutally technical and I feel bad if I'm draging a team down. And that's the problem with Destiny. End game content is tough (as it should be) but nothing outside the raid really prepares you for what you will face. Every mechanic in the raid is limited to the raid. All the solo content is a cakewalk compared to the raid. What I'm saying is, Destiny is the perfect breeding ground for excluding newbies. And that is why I could not recommend it to anyone that wants something more than a good old shooter.
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Editado por TheArtist: 11/30/2015 4:30:47 PM[quote]And that's the problem with Destiny. End game content is tough (as it should be) but nothing outside the raid really prepares you for what you will face. Every mechanic in the raid is limited to the raid. All the solo content is a cakewalk compared to the raid.[/quote] One game can't be all things to all people. If the game is made hard enough to make the hardcore people happy, it becomes unapproachable by more casual players. If you make it more approachable to casual players....then the hardcore players bitch about how "easy" it is. Agreed...the problem with the raid, is exactly what a previous poster said. The mechanics are SO complex and SO exacting that it is you basically need FIVE experienced players in order to walk ONE new player through the raid....if you dont' want it to take five hours. Because any TINY mistake basically results in a wipe in any of the boss battles. Neither VoG or CE were like that. There was enough give in the mechanics to allow for some imperfection....and make the expereince more inclusive. Same with the heroic strike playlist. Some of the ways in which the new strikes scale up in diffiiculty are just ridiculous (cough SABRE cough). Bungie needs to decide who they are making this game for...and whom they wish to cater to. The average gamer....or the streamers and other people who spend most of the day with game controller in hand.
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"All the solo content is a cakewalk compared to the raid." Truth.
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The newbies have all the year one content too cut teeth on and at a higher light lvl than we got they shouldnt be expecting to hard raid without ever completing a normal one.
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i am talking about that point in general and not about you personally
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He's right and you know it. You are obviously one those so called "elitist" pricks that requires someone to have every end game weapon and know everything about the game and raid for them to be in your fireteam. You are one of the ones he speaks of.
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actually i dont care what you have but i do have over 500 raid completions and dont mind helping people through within reason and i see far too much bitching about stupid shit,,, go make your own fireteam quit crying about how someone else makes one i guess anyone that doesnt carry your lazy ass is a prick
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[quote]actually i dont care what you have[/quote] Says the -blam!-tard who previously commented on what someone had equipped. Muted.
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Uncalled for. I've been on both sides of this. What happens is that the hardcore players are willing to be "patient" and allow for raids to take a long time when THEY are learning the mechanics. But once they learn, they go into "farming" mode...and just want to get the raids done as quickly as possible and get out. They are unwilling---as a group----to "pay forward" the patience that other people showed them while they were learning. But then are often the first people to complain about the lack of "experienced" players, and how "no one" knows the mechanics of the raid. The fact of the matter is that very few people have 6 or 7 hours to devote learning how to do the raids from scratch. Only a VERY TINY subset of people have that much time on their hands away from real world responsibilities. I've played this game almost every day since release....and FIVE HUNDRED raid completions is a gob-smacking number even to me. You are such a statistical outlier that your situation is almost not worth discussing when it comes to the situation of the typical player of this game. Bear that in mind when you decide to judge others....or call them names.
