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Editado por Nikolai:
12/2/2015 4:40:52 AM
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Question for Titans, From a Hunter
Actually it is addressed to anyone who is Not okay with the Hammer of Sol nerf. Let me ask you this...
How would you feel if Golden Gun...
had 7 shots?
last 30 sec?
had super high aim assist / tracking?
had explosive rounds (5ft radius)?
had +55% damage resistance?
regained health after every ability kill?
had all of the above?
Tell me...what would you think of this?
Edit: I know that even I would admit that it is over powered, and would be fine with it being nerfed to be on par with all other supers... OMG, this must sound like blasphemy!!!
Edit: And hey, How about this. If being nerfed still tickles your willy, how about all other supers be buffed to be on par with HoS? Like the above abilities being added to Golden Gun?
Edit: Okay, the majority are responding by only saying you cant compare the two supers. First I would like to say I am not really comparing them. I am mostly saying how would titans feel if the shoe were on the other foot? And besides; Why cant we compare them? They ARE both supers after all. Shouldnt they both be equally powered? Wouldn't it be fair if all supers could shutdown all supers (EVERYONE having to waste Most if not All of their super to do so)? or No super being able to shut down any super?
I don't really care about the people say "Look at the crying Hunter". Because I am not crying, I am merely asking Titans how they would feel about the above being on a Hunter (because that is what Titans seem to cry about the most). Anyways, I'm not going to get into an argument, because that is not what I am here for. I want to love all the classes the same. I love Hunters (not Arc blade), I love Warlock (all the subclasses), and I love Titan (only defender).
Here is another idea. I largely hate crucible due to HoS, Shotguns, Blink, (a few other things); but I largely see it boil down to abilities. How about make a game mode where all abilities are disabled? No double jump, no crazy grenades (everyone gets a standard grenade), and all melees are turned into titan punch?
Reminds me of halo.... to an extent.
Edit: By the by, something else that I have noticed, for Warlocks and Hunters I see all three of their subclasses in Crucible, all the time. This is different for Titans. I would say that out of 50 Titans I come across, 47 of them will be HoS, 2 will be Striker, and 1 (might) be defender (very rare).
Yeah, defender is largely only good for PvE, but it can also be good in PvP, so why is it neglected? It is difficult for me to articulate all the problems I have with Destiny's "Super" system... The best thing I think I can say is that ALL supers should have some kind of use ALL of the time... (arguably)
Edit: A notable reply I made to a titan here; " I dont want it nerfed to oblivion. 5% less armor would be enough in my book. And maybe put a cooldown on the heeling perk, maybe 5 sec. Last thing is I feel it lasts a little too long. If I am killed by someone's HoS, I shouldn't respawn across the map, and get killed by the same HoS."
Edit: Geez... so much hate from both sides. Like crazy amounts. Honestly everyone, what is wrong with wanting crucible to actually be competitive? Or are you all honestly willing to admit you think Crucible is competitive as is? TBH, I hope Destiny 2 doesn't even have supers xD I bet people will still find stuff to cry about tho :\ Not sure if it is the community's fault, or just not enough testing in the lab
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All Year 2 supers are OP compared to Year 1. If you are that scared of the hammers, wait until you hear the sound, throw smoke, and shoot the Titan with your bow. You will likely tether 2 or 3 others that are blindly following the Titan. That's what the really skilled Hunters do to me. Just saying....
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How would titans feel if the shoe was on the other foot??? You mean like the 365 days of year one?
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I hate this community.
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I got one question for you...
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Maybe I'm the only one, but I main a titan and those hammers aren't the most controlled thing to use. I hit alot of walls and doorways in pvp. I'd say of I was surrounded buy six guardians I'd nail like two. Other than that I'm just launching hammers in hopes I hit something. And I swear, people hear *shpadink* as my super goes off and unless you're right in front of me you're running the hell away. Nerfs are for people who suck. Let's bring all you great players down to my level. Screw that, I suck at Destiny. Pvp scrub, that's me. PvE scrub, that's me. But I want to be good. I want to bang with the best of em. All these nerfs and people like me who enjoy the game, who actually want to "git gud" well never have a chance because all these people whining will just keep getting the game brought down. Sorry bout the rant.
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35 RespuestasEditado por EzE_408: 11/30/2015 2:48:03 PMIt's funny how people define themselves as one class or another. I use all 3 equally. In MMOs, you have a reason to have a Main. Let's be real though. Hunter is by far the most overall OP class in the game. Complaining about a Titans super is stupid. They don't have an evasive maneuver because they are...TITANS. Having said that, a couple hammers more in their supers does not compare with the ability to shade step (Hunter) or blink jump (Hunter and Warlock). Blinking saves lives. You can easily evade a tracks and death with it for the ENTIRE match. Not to mention closing in on your enemy without being exposed the whole time. If they nerf Titan, they better get rid of shade step and blink jumping or give Titans some ability to mitigate damage throughout the entire match. Classes are as balanced as they can be. If you can't dodge a few hammers then that's a skill issue.
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2 RespuestasEditado por mikgonza: 12/2/2015 5:44:31 PMThey hate because they know it true. Hammer is over the top. I've seen massive point gaps closed when 1 Titan pops a HOS. Anything that can single handedly turn the point scale in a match is over the top. You can dodge a void bomb you can use distance against a blade dancer. If a Titan can see you with the hammer your dead and you can't kill him. That's ridiculous and it's cheating.
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2 RespuestasEditado por JigglinJellycube: 12/2/2015 5:15:45 PMYeah I wouldn't care. But you're blowing it way out of proportion. Try and not be a little bitch okay?
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Uhm... as a titan, i agree that sunbreaker is op. At pvp at least. At pve its okay. But, the hammer is affected by gravity, golden gun isnt. You cant compare that.
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It called bladedancer for you hunters....
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All sunbreakers have are supers the subclass kinda sucks
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How would you feel if striker got bladedancers nuetral game... Are SB got gunslingers
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Lol when you said 5ft radius I laughed so hard. 5ft really isn't that far
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I main a hunter, and the SUPER is the best SUPER yes everyone knows that, but i think us and warlocks have the best SUBCLASS, like imagin the nightstalker subclass, could use seven arrows, and they had tracking so you dont miss and killed one hit, equal to sunbreakers? No, sunbreakers only have the super, we have a much better overall subclass, with evade, and the tracking thing i like, the only thing good about sunbreaker is the super, we have better overall subclasses as a hunter. A titan against a sunbreaker has no way of gettinf out of there, he is -blam!-ed, hunters have a much quicker jump, blink, and evade. I agree the overshield is a bit much, maybe reduce that but keep the health regen. So someone good enough can kill one, but if your not good enough you wont leave the poor titan with half health for someone else to clear up, Supers are supposed to be op, thats why they are supers, people are saying you get 7 hammers, but how many of those get kills? Maybe 3? If your team is stupid enough to keep going to sunbreakers during a super is your problem not the super. And i usually always get 2-3 kills with golden gun, or my tether ill kill everyone because they are stuck and i shoot them in the foot and do crit damage. If your good enough to kill a sunbreaker now, then good for you, im not, but when i hear that dong, i know not to be stupid and ill hide or run, if im up agaisnt a golden gun, i dont know until a flaming hunter and thats usually too late.
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The only issue with your point is this. Golden gun can snipe you. That is why it is max four shots. With over the horizon you can kill anyone from ANY part of the map instantly. If a titan is far away they cannot do that.
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Titan see puny hunter. Titan must punch puny hunter
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What's the difference between a Sunsinger and a Sunbreaker? Why should it take 3 hammers to break a Ward of Dawn when Golden Gun only needs 2 shots and Landfall can go right through it? What's the difference between a Bladedancers regeneration speed and a Sunbreakers? Guns account for more kills then supers but supers are a problem? Supers are actively available because the opponent killed more Guardians during their match, but again a super is the problem? Black Spindle can one shot with a precision hit but again the excuse is it takes up an exotic slot. Use nighthawk, or is there going to be another excuse for that too. No one complains about the speed of a Hunter, the unique target tracking for a Nightstalker. Shade step not having a cool down. Blink Shotgun is still viable. Two hammers to kill a Bladedancer. Gunslingers projectile spam of a knife, tripmine, knife and another tripmine. Same can be said about poison grenade and then a fusion grenade. Look at the weapon reload and stability perk. No complaints from anyone. You want it fair? Stay out Of PvP and go play with Lego's. You make Hunters look like whining babies.
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14 RespuestasEditado por almondclint: 12/2/2015 3:56:41 PMGolden guns can have 4 shots, has explosive rounds, lasts more than 30 seconds, has no damage drop off or arch, cam wipe an entire team in one shot. Sure, its armor is low and has no health regen. But, you can sit in the back of the map if you want and wipe people out. Quit complaining and git gud, skrub a dub dudly do little flub a rub tub bub a doooooo! Edit: lots of salty hunters out there. I have a hunter. I never have any issues that yall complain about. I think you are mad because you want a super that, when you pop it, kills all enemies, then keeps killing them when they spawn, for the rest of the match. Hunter mains, yall have a bunch of whiney punks giving hunters a bad name.
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1 RespuestaThen bye bye to your precision perks. Bye bye to scavenger.
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My answer to your question: Sunbreaker IS the [b]POSTER BOY[/b] for Taken King Campaign, it needs to be OP. Roger, and out…
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I would think titans would be the new complainers. Lmao all the hunters are bad now imagine all the titans.
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5 shots would be better because remember how powerful it is
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But our super doesn't last 30 sec and the only way to get 7 hammers is to throw constantly so your argument is invalid.
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2 RespuestasIt's armor stat is the same as a radiant skin warlock, you don't hear people complain about us.
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1 RespuestaThere is travel time you have to do it in third person if you don't spam hammers you don't get as many with golden gun you have almost no travel time first person shooting and when you shoot part of your super isn't taken away
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Makes sense... From all the evidence, Since Taken King was release the Titan SunBreaker class was the poster boy of its recent DLC... Everybody at Bungie loved the Titan SunBreaker and forgot and overlooked that it's over powered in Crucible...
