I never played against a warlock with it until recently, and it was amazing. You couldn't win if you were both landing precision shots no matter what; worthy of exotic status.
Ace of Spades is a good hand cannon, nothing more.
Fabian strategy should be as better than Tlaloc at close range, but its perk doesn't do shit. If the perk that increased fire rate worked I would love it and it would be great.
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-I should clarify that I don't actually want Tlaloc nerfed, it is just clickb8
-I also fixed up some grammar and added punctuation because I didn't think this would get popular at all. Tlaloc was misspelled all over the place.
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Bump because I want to be popular again
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Buff the Ace and Fabian but Thaloc doesn't need a nerf. Also buff the first curse.
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57 Respuestas>be warlock >go to PvP >see how underpowered my class really is >sigh >Gun smith rank 3 >bythegods.jpg >finally can compete >see shit post about buffing Titans and hunters more >sigh
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Tlaloc is only really amazing on Self-rez sunsingers. They usually hold onto their supers until the revive so it is kinda best suited to them. That's about the only time. That being said, none of these feel good enough to be labeled as Exotic. I honestly wish it had been the other way around on this, where the specials were exotic and primaries were legendary. I mean the perks on the specials are just so much more powerful. Tried out the Armor of Light Shotgun in crucible and I was nigh unstoppable. The warlock fusion rifle is great because it matches your subclass pretty much, which makes it great for dealing with any type of enemy. The Hunter sniper gives you enhanced radar so you can select another perk with Nightstalker or keep it through out other subclasses which basically makes it into a legendary knucklehead with a better version of the perk.
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I really like the idea of the Fabian strategy. It would be a beautiful weapon of destruction if it got a patch.
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Nerf tlaloc
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The hunters sniper beats the warlocks fusion, by a lot. Also, using the Tlaloc requires you to horde your super, other wise it's just an underwhelming hung jury.
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2 RespuestasAce of spades is awesome!
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OP is right, the others need a buff. Holding onto your super as a warlock isn't really a tradeoff. Voidwalker gets 1/2 kills [i]most[/i] of the time with a NB so holding onto it won't set you back that much. You shouldn't really run self res with this gun since you shouldn't be dying anyway and it'll just result in you losing your super. zif you have good gun game you can easily make up for the number of kills you'd get with this gun.
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2 RespuestasDon't nerf tlaloc, it's not op but it is definitely exotic worthy, idk about the other two as I don't have them, but from what I have heard, they are fairly average.
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Fabian + Fruit = Lofe
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4 RespuestasPeople trade a super for the gun to be good. Tlaloc is a warlock only weapon, so no mass influx of one specific weapon, like thorn was. Super is charged maybe twice, or three times in a game, so the gun becomes valuable much later in the game. Plus, guns like red death and hawksaw are still a counter to the weapon, so your point on the Tlaloc nerf is invalid. As for the other 2 weapons, Fabian Strategy needs a major perk fix, but Ace of Spades is a balanced weapon and really doesnt need to be "buffed."
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Here are my ideas: Ace of Spades perk Macerick now provides a free round on precision kills (not from your reserves) and grants a chance to fully refill the mag for free, also on precision kills. Fabian Strategy perk increased to 25% fire rate increase and now has an indicator for when it is active.
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Fabian just needs bungie to fix the broken exotic perk
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3 RespuestasWarlocks should naturally get the better stuff. They are the superior class.
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No, don't nerf tlaloc. But definitely buff ace and Fabian
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Fabians perk should buff the RoF to true bullethose status, like Nechrocasm RoF would be amazing. Would melt people at close range, which is what an auto is supposed to do.
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Editado por Squintore: 11/4/2015 2:06:13 AMWould be cool if consecutive precision kills with Ace of Spades increased its damage stacking until reload. Fabian Strategy replace the exotic perk with something else maybe increased armor when super is full?
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4 RespuestasThat scout rifle should be slightly brought down. It's by far one of the best ones out there but it's not really fair that warlocks get such a powerful weapon and hunters/Titans get subpar ones. But then again when bungie sees that they nerf everything else . "People complained about the snipers, nerf the black hammer and icebreaker"
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No because I use both of them guns for Crucible, Ace Spades is fine as it is
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Fuff Babian Dynasty.
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Handcannons overall suck once again
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1 RespuestaBuff the Fabian strategy's RoF from the perk, leave ace of spades (that's definitely a pve weapon, and great at what it does) and leave tlaloc
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Fabian Strategy really let me down. I was expecting so much more from it
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If Ace of Spades could carry double the ammo in reserve that it currently has it would be leaps and bounds better than what it is now with no changes to anything else.
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5 Respuestasfabian needs counterbalance ace of spades is great pve and is about the same as a legendary pvp but the only real exotic hand cannon is hawkmoon in pvp anyway