Well for the older gamers I'm 28, we didn't have Xbox live when halo 1 released. We went to friends houses to play, so it was the story, co op, and 4-16 player multiplayer. Halo 2 introduced X box live, which was amazing! It's disappointing reading all these comments talking about only PVP cause halo once had a good campaign, and story. I can't really see the comparison to destiny because destiny is more of an RPG MMO, while halo is just PVP like cod. It won't beat destiny though I love halo. When halo can create you own Spartan and becomes an RPG like destiny than maybe. I saw the commercial too, it was disappointing watching it, they copied destiny and was like look we can smash the ground too. They should have came up with something new.