To basically summarize everything i previously wrote and meant: Can the bladedancer insta-kill opponents from across the map and even get multi-kills in the process? No. Can the gunslingers withstand a headshot from a sniper rifle or another gunslingers super or even two bursts from a gun like the messenger? No. Can the voidwalker use his novabomb 5+ times within a few seconds? No. Can the sunsinger regenerate health after each grenade kill? No. Can the striker use titan smash 5+ times within a few seconds? No. Can the stormcaller kill people across the map, regenerate health in the process and withstand a sniper rifle headshot or a gunslinger shot? No, and lets not even mention the poor defender guy (compared to the others, he does not have nearly as many "privileges" as the other classes do. Respect to anyone who plays it proudly). A minor nerf to the armor buff of the sunbreaker then that's it, it would be just fine then. Because the sunbreaker can do all the things mentioned above (the "5+" ability use refers to the hammer throw), it's totally cool right? Or is that too much for you titans? Will it mean that you (as a player, NOT the class) will go back to being shit in the cruicible? It sure looks that way, why else would you be crying whenever someone says the word "nerf"? And to clarify things, i don't give a rats ass about pve, you guys could have infinite supers there for all i care. I'm out.