Let me set something straight. [b]Titans take the most skill to use [i]EFFECTIVELY[/i][/b] This is why people complained about Shoulder Charge and Fist of Panic in Destiny's early days. Now though, if you want multikills with those abilities, you better be really good at being sneaky.

This isn't mine, but here is some backup that Titans aren't OP Credit to M aiq The Liar [quote]Since most of you whiners have the attention span of a newborn chimpanzee, here's a [b]TLDR[/b]: [i]If you whine about Hunters' subclasses, or Titans being OP: it's a you-problem. Check the stats [url=http://destinytracker.com/destiny/population]here[/url], then go work on your skills.[/i] [u]____________________________________[/u] Recently there have been more and more Hunters weeping over their subclasses being too weak. Which is, of course, complete rubbish. Like a Gunslinger with Golden Gun I am here to burst your bubbles of delusion, with facts derived from statistics. Now I know that some of you moaners will dispute the statistics' significance- and by all means do so... But if you have nothing but useless anecdotes to offer, sorry, but you have no case. Let's start by clearing out the demographics in the crucible, across all platforms: 34.2% plays as Hunter 33.6% plays as Warlock 32.2% plays as Titan As you can see, no class is over-represented, thus can we deduce that none of the following stats will be skewed to a point of being unreliable. Top 100 players (by class) 1st place: Hunters at 36.1% 2nd place: Titans at 32.6% 3rd place: Warlocks at 31.3% Congratulations Hunters! You are the undisputed Kings and Queens of the hill. Top 10,000 players (the average Joe, by class) 1st place: Hunters at 35.3% 2nd place: Warlocks at 32.7% 3rd place: Titans at 32% Congratulations Hunters! Yet again you're at the top. Let's break down the subclass demographics: [u]Hunters[/u] 51% Bladedancers 49% Gunslingers [u]Titans[/u] 47% Defenders 53% Strikers [u]Warlocks[/u] 62% Sunsingers 38% Voidwalkers Let's have a look at the AVERAGE KDR: [u]Hunters[/u] Bladedancers > 1 Gunslingers > 1 [u]Titans[/u] Defender < 1 Striker < 1 [u]Warlocks[/u] Voidwalker < 1 Sunsinger < 1 As most of you know, the current PvP meta game consists of an exotic handcannon and a shotgun: 1) Handcannons 1,466,551,647 kills 2) Shotguns 1,441,875,593 kills 3) Melee 1,082,244,380 kills A common complaint is how Titans Shoulder charge is sooooo OP, so let's see who's the worst perpetraitor. 1) Sunsingers 281,325,978 (26% of) melee kills 2) Strikers 193,989,846 (17.93% of) melee kills 3) Bladedancer 175,413,331 melee kills 4) Voidwalker 14.84% 5) Defender 13.65% 6) Gunslinger 11.37% So... Shoulder charge is the problem, but you don't mind being killed by warlocks almost twice as often? Hmm. Gunslingers though, thumbs up if you know how to throw your knife. Now onto the real problem. Arcblade needs a buff right? Or was Golden Gun the useless super? Fist of Havoc is too OP? 1) Bladedancer at 207,596,562 kills (21.73%) 2) Gunslinger at 179,520,390 kills (18.79%) 3) Striker at 178,059,836 kills (18.64%) 4) Sunsinger at 15.71% 5) Voidwalker at 12.60% 6) Defender 12.52% So, now that we've established that Hunters get the absolute highest amount of kills with their supers, I think it's safe to say that you need to stop weeping for nerfs. Seriously, stop. Anyways, the last myth to debunk: Hunter grenades suck, Magnetic grenade and Lightning grenade are OP: 1) Sunsinger at 173,643,166 grenade kills 2) Bladedancer at 129,281,096 grenade kills 3) Gunslinger at 104,629,378 grenade kills 4) Voidwalker at 98,384,135 grenade kills 5) Striker at 90,707,260 grenade kills 6) Defender at 67,964,843 grenade kills Yeeeeeeeeessss... Lightning grenades and Magnetic grenades are the problem... One word: bolt. To any Titan out there being annoyed by Hunters crying and moaning, refer to this thread. [b]Source of information[/b]: Destiny Tracker, downloaded at 12:15 PM on the 27th of August 2015, from http://destinytracker.com/destiny/population [b]Authors note[/b]: Statistics on Destiny Tracker are updated every 15 minutes, and thus people will find differing numbers while cross checking the source. Did I miss anything? Grammar or spelling mistake? Post a comment below! EDIT: [i]On a completely unrelated note. THANK YOU BUNGIE for the great video over at Game Informer. I absolutely loved the return of humour and honesty. You really nailed the description of the community being more like shareholders than hobby gamers. I strongly recommend anyone reading this to look up the Game Informer video (released on the 26th).[/i][/quote]

[quote] I'm a sniper so I rarely ever blink shotgun, but when I do you can bet I get 15-20 more kills than deaths easy.[/quote] I bet you don't because blink shotgun players barely average more than a kill per death. Unless your Triple and judging by your stats your far from what you preach.

Titans are definitely the most useful class in game. But damn are Hunters fun to play. I'm a Warlock main since Beta myself. I appreciate good Titan players, I'm working on my Titan skills but I've a long way to go.

bruh I mained warlock for most of my Destiny career but a little secret a lot of people don't know is that my first class was a Titan, and I secretly switch off and on between them a lot in Crucible. In fact, she used to be my PvP main for a while until I "perfected" my blink shotgun technique (this was during the early stages of vanilla PvP before the shotgun reign of terror that came with HoW so I thought I was pretty hot shit. Eventually I went back to sniping like in the beta days). I agree that Titans take a lot of skill. Their biggest advantage is a testament to that; Titan Skating is the equivalent to other "skill based" movement in other shooters, like bunnyhoping in Counter Strike or k-style in Gunz. It allows titans to go extremely fast and allow them to reach important angles. If you have decent game sense you can even juke blinkers and supers. That being said, you need to have a good sense of timing and dexterity to perfect it and bring it to the crucible acting like you know what you're doing.

Ya cuz pressing R1 and L1 to get a free kill is hard

No striker takes the least skill and because of that gives the least reward, every Striker aspect is extremely easy to use and therefore it should be the worst compared to harder to use aspects that are better if you can use them correctly. You should try using defender though because if you can use it to its advantages it actually makes a kick ass pvp subclass and pve subclass

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