Gun laws got really strict in Finland. If you post a picture of yourself with a firearm to Facebook etc. it is possible all your guns will be taken away. Still, if a criminal wants a gun, mark my words a criminal will somehow get one.

This is absolutely retarded. You Americans are so obsessed with "mah freedoms!" you seriously can't see that guns kill people? No! "Hur dur guns can't kill people, they're not alive! People kill people. Deep derp derp". Yes, congratulations on applying retarded logic. Correct logic, but retarded logic. I'm not saying that millions of Americans [i]don't[/i] live peacefully with guns, far from it. Having been to America several times and met gun owners I [i]know[/i] that the vast majority of you don't, and won't use your guns to kill people. But for that small amount of people, the crazies, the insecure, the fanatics, the social outcasts who [i]do[/i] decide to take a rifle and go on a killing spree [i]guns are dangerous and help raise the death toll.[/i] Seriously, do you think the death toll at the church, sandy hook or columbine would have been the same if the shooter didn't have a gun? No! For -blam!- sake. If all they could get hold of was knives or swords they probably wouldn't have bothered, or if they had, managed to kill one or two people before being tackled to the ground and having their weapon taken off of them. Or the people who have been mortally wounded in bank heists, liquor store robberies and so on, do you think the same number would have died if the criminals only had a kitchen knife? But you people are so obsessed with your personal freedoms, you can't see it. Guess what? A lot of countries have outlawed guns and... Here it comes... Massive surprise... Are you ready?.... WE'RE STILL FREE! And guess what? We also have less violent crime! But no, you guys consider your personal right to own a shiny piece of metal higher than 20 children's right to life, and that's appalling. No, not just appalling, it's despicable and absolutely downright -blam!-ing insanely retarded. Then you argue that criminals will still get hold of guns, black market and the like. Yes, yes they will. But it will be a damn slight harder without being able to get them next to the baked beans in Walmart. Funnily enough the people who have access to the black market are the people who work on the black market, not your everyday lowlife who decides to rob a house or shoot up a public building. So, instead of asking yourself "what are the chances of criminals getting hold of guns when I can't?", because that's far too generalised a question, ask "what are the actual chances of coming in contact with organised crime?" The answer is pretty -blam!-ing low. Guns have been illegal for decades in England and I've not once seen a live fire weapon in civilian hands. And it's not like I've not had the opportunity. I've know countless drug dealers and petty thieves. Even a few career criminals [i]and not one of them had a gun.[/i] Not only that, none of them have ever killed anyone. You know what happens to them when they get cornered? They give up and go to jail. No suicides, no shoot outs. It just ends. I really hope you all see sense one day, the sooner the better. Guns [i]do[/i] kill people, no matter how much you try and rationalise it away. Not only that, but your over the counter gun culture is supplying criminals in other countries. It's not just America that's suffering from your myopic stubbornness. And if you still think that your right to defend yourself from, what would become, unarmed criminals is more important than innocent lives, please, just kill yourselves. The world would be a better place for it. Edit: Sorry people, I can't reply. Opening the comment chain crashes my phone. Scroll right the way down to the first 30 replies and I've probably proven your counter argument wrong with the glorious power of facts. Thanks for making this my most successful reply ever.

The state law probably allowed the transaction. If he is a criminal , he wouldn't have pass a background check. Thats is if the state had a law that made people do a background check before gifting the gun. Nevada has changed the law making everyone do a background check before gifting or selling a firearm. In addition, there was added mental health information added to the background check. I don't have a problems with that.

I'll just leave this here.

Main issue: People who want to commit acts of violence will commit then. Banning guns won't stop them.These people are going to commit murder, and/or homicide, why would they care about a gun law?

Gun laws only affect the "good people" Criminals who want to kill someone can buy them off the streets Gun laws are just a waste of time

why is "because he got it legally" not one of the options?

How can you idiots say it was because he was a criminal? He acquired the gun legally. This is why we need mandatory background checks.

64% are dumb or trolling.

People have been killing each other for thousands of years long before the first firearms existed. I am sure if he had no access to guns he would find a way to hurt people, seeing how he obviously had some issues. I don't think it is morally or constitutionally right to restrict citizens access to firearms, let alone ban certain guns for having "assault weapon" features which resemble some military select fire rifles and are rarely used in any criminal activity (also not even involved in any way to this tragedy at all). The fact of the matter is most gun owners will never commit any crime with their guns and frankly I don't think guns are what causes these people to kill, I think it is an easy way out to blame an object as a source for people's hate and insanity.

I live in canada but I could go out and shoot someone regardless of gun laws, the only way to truly prevent a shooting like that is to ban guns completely.

I watched a show and it shows a 12 year old buying a gun from a private seller. Thats just -blam!-ing stupid.[spoiler] ヘ(^_^ヘ) [/spoiler]

And the father should be charged as an accessory to murder for supplying a gun to someone under disability. Once your convicted of a felony you cannot own a weapon. That idiot should never have had a weapon and his dad is just as much to blame