Setting the scene, we're running the ROC strike, Sepiks Prime.
Started out with three of us, the first guy pretty much left straight away (fair enough). So me and the other guy just crack on. We quickly progress to Sepiks, got Sepiks halfway down on health when the other guy disconnects. Feeling bad for the other guy I crack on bringing Sepiks to a fraction of its health when two randoms are dropped into the team (this doesn't bother me). Sepiks dies shortly after, when I notice the two other guys that only joined the fireteam ended up with various legendary items!! WTF I thought to myself!
Is this really RNG!? I've seen it far too often, players with the least amount of involvement, least kills, lowest score, most deaths are bestowed with the best rewards! Don't get me wrong I'm not complaining about the two other guys that just got dropped into a game by the matchmaker, there's nothing they can do about that! But Bungies 'RNG' is sending out the wrong signals, it rewards the lowest scoring players more often than the highest scoring. So on the basis of that logic what's the point in playing properly, because technically you could do literally nothing in a raid, strike or crucible match and be given a big 'special' Bungie pat on the back when it comes to the reward screen!
[b]TL : DR[/b]
Bitching about RNG: The highest scoring players at the end of the game should be given the chance of better rewards through RNG, not the lowest scoring players!
[b]EDIT[/b]: I suggest a slight change to RNG where the best performers in a raid, strike, crucible match are given an increased chance through RNG the likelyhood of better rewards.
This would also eliminate the AFK'ers in raids, strikes and matches! If there's no reward for not participating it would force players to at least try and participate.
In my eyes this only seems fair but only IMHO.
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2 RespuestasI can beat that hands down. 2 weeks ago (or 3?), Archon Priest. Me and a clan buddy do the Nightfall. We're at Archon, his health is maybe 75%. One of our other clan mates joins up. He arrives, spawns right in the middle of the boss fight area ... you know where I mean ... And instant gets killed. We can't revive him so he just stays dead whilst we finish Archon. His reward? Gally. I -blam!- you not. And the thing is, the clan did Crota too later that night, and he joined right at the end, again, and got Hawkmoon! -blam!- RNG mate.
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BUNGIE said they are fixing this
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4 Respuestas( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) your a joke
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1 RespuestaIt's random idiot. The likelihood of getting a legendary is not going to favor you idiot
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I carried some randoms through Phogoth and got Hawkmoon. You jelly?
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http://www.gamesradar.com/heres-how-bungie-trapped-average-playtime-destiny-77-hours/
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This is why I've been veering more towards Battlefield Hardline these past two weeks. At least with this game, I can actually work towards the Syndicate Assignment weapons I want, with a guarantee that I'll get them.
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55 RespuestasBut when I mentioned that the RNG is a fluke, fanboys went ape sh** on me. One even stated, "WELL BUNGIE DEVELOPERS SAID,...."
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2 RespuestasThat's why it's... get ready for this one...... [spoiler]RANDOM!![/spoiler]
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What determines 'best' players in these activities? Is a player who gets the most kills with least deaths the best? Is the player who does the most damage to the boss and drops the most orbs better?
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I've been blessed for two weeks, I've gotten thunderlord, hard light,and Suros
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2 RespuestasI feel for you but I'll admit I know it's a slap in the face & I also been on the other end of it too. I jumped in seconds later boss dead I didn't know I looked at his health & thought cool nearly dead I'm just going to run over here & hide , look in my inventory , see who's online etc...... Rewards come up he got shards I got hawk moon, so I sent this random a text saying yay I earnt hawk moon finally!!!! His reply was disgusting, he even cursed at me so I replied git gud scrub. I earnt this hawk moon then I danced.
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Then the scrubs will quit the game now We wouldn't want that now would we
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4 RespuestasThe fact that better performing players across all aspects of this game have the same conclusion is clearly not random! I have been through 21 NF's in a row with only Mats given. Took a noob through his virgin run and he got GHorn. Happy for him but he had 5 kills! Yes, 5 (FIVE)! As a reward on my last 3 runs this week I got 7 shards, Hunter and Titan armor. I am a warlock x3! Really not that hard to see that the VOG and Crota NEVER rewards non-class-specific armor and that is also RNG! So for those stating ' it is RNG', explain that!!!
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I wish the weapons weren't as random either certain things come off certain bosses like WoW or something, sucks getting the same exotics over and over. Some of them are givin away like candy
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Editado por the vibsinator: 4/2/2015 12:43:44 PMIts random its just that people tend to notice when someone who did no work gets something. But I do agree it should be weighted
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4 Respuestasits partly to do with psychology since when top players get a good item [i]"that's the way it should be" [/i] so you dont notice while when a bad/undeserving player gets it you go "WTF!!!!!" and it sticks in your mind more but the whole RNG concept is just crap as the main way to get gear as you dont earn anything your just lucky worse thing is how its set up so legendary items are incredibly rare so they mean something when 1 drops which fair enough but theres also RNG on its perks with no way to change them so most of the time you will get a useless piece of legendary gear
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2 RespuestasIt's not random. There's a hundred guns but you'll get like three same guns over And over and over. If it was Vegas slot machine they'd bin it for being broken. If it was a dealer they'd fire him for failing to shuffle. At best it's weighted like nba draft slots where like you have a 90% chance of getting a shards and a .01% chance of getting a gun. Then they just say its random. Not really when you've weighted the results in favor of duplicating items and constantly returning the same weapon. You can't tell me that Atheon drops aren't drastically weighted toward giving aspect of glass, energy and time breakers over weapons. weapons. And like today it's funny on two different characters, about 3 minutes apart I turned in the same bounty and only that bounty and on both I got awarded a rare ship blueprint. The problem is their random number generator is massively slanted. It's a broken slot machine.
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the RNG roll isn't across all 3 players, each player gets their own individual RNG roll it's based on some complicated formula designed to keep you playing the game, and it gives you a new gun when it thinks you need one to keep playing those other 2 players had nothing to do with the roll you got
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Also got a legendary ship from weekly
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3 RespuestasJust got hard light and MIDA multi within 20 mins in roc strikes. The demoralizing part is I just bought these from xur :(
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Actually, RNG is RNG. I was busting my ass in ROC strike while one player went AFK at the starting point and the other player was camping inside that box. This was during that cabal strike. The camper died a few times from splash damage while I single handedly took down all the mobs wave after wave and also found time to ping that bullet sponge with an Icebreaker. After what seems like eternity, the meat shield finally went down and I was rewarded with a legendary engram. So, it is really RNG since the afk player got only 1 blue gun, and 1 blue shader. Lol
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1 RespuestaYou have just started the game. One 31 and 1 raid completion. Quit pls.
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2 RespuestasRNG = RANDOM number generator. Honestly..how hard is it to understand?
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Editado por SaberFusion1: 4/2/2015 10:43:54 AMProbl should try this out, just do whats nessessary to beat vog and not get kicked and earn vex :D seems like doing most kills doesnt rng me the vex...