Reading this is interesting because evening people have trouble cheeseing. I'm not saying i'm a pro at all i'm actually not that good. So i just take in what i learn on my way through my "Destiny" call me a cheater if u feel that way but what matters n the end is how much fun your having or if u get the gear u need. Either way its awesome that u guys have a commitment to never cheese. Goodluck for the rest of your journeys guys w