It seems like every time I peruse the forums I come across another person crying for nerfs for some weapon type(i.e. fusion rifles) or even specific weapons(suros, vex, thorn, TLW, etc.) So I guess I am baffled. Why do people think these weapons are so OP? These weapons are designed for certain scenarios. If you try to fight them in their domain, you will likely lose. So rather than trying the same strategy to engage them expecting a different result (the definition of insanity), why don't you simply try a different approach? If you're STILL getting your posterior handed to you, maybe that particular player (or players) are just better than you. Stop asking for weapons to get nerfed just because you either can't figure out a counter or simply aren't skilled enough to win. Long story short, quit whining about weapons and just learn to adapt. If you can't learn to adapt, maybe crucible/iron banner isn't the place for you.