Done the raid over 20 times have 2 pieces of raid armor thats it two pieces. wont be able to play the dlc raid because i cant even get one of my people to lvl 30. I got the mythosuck before i got full raid gear. so i feel ya i just gave up on the raid, no point all it does is make me angery watching people get to 30 while i get the same weapons over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. RNG loot systems always should be supplemented with some type of trade or "True" reward system. Because RNG is not skill based or rewarding at all, in truth RNG angers more people then it helps. This is why most RNG systems set up different drops for different bosses/enemies. To give the player a better chance and to not lose players due to its unfairness in drops. You should be rewarded for doing the raid, with a coin for completion and you can turn in a group of said coins for raid gear. This would invoke more people to play and keep a loyal grouping of raid player for longer. To have a RNG loot system not supplemented with a "True" reward system is not done because it is more of a deterrent then anything else, "why should i play when im not going to get any thing for it." But I doubt they will fix this because lets face it this game is close to broken, it would just be cheaper to make a new one.

I know someone who got 3 pieces of raid gear the first time ever playing on normal

I know how u feel I have two accounts , this one with 2 level 29 and a 3rd that if I spent shards would be 29 and a second account with 3 warlocks that share gear suck at 29 and I do the raid 6 to 12 times a week depending on if I do hard , for that I have a set of raid gloves -.- YAY !!

Thank you I feel the same way did the raid on hard to many times to only keep getting shards and energies then I play with people who I carry through VOG who's only done it twice and gets gear and good weapons I don't freaking get it at all have friends who's joined my raids at the end to get a vex metho,gallo horn,etc ... I'm damn near giving up then if I do get gear it's the same piece of armor wtffffff destiny random my ass it only helps the weak and people who don't put time into the game as much.

Third or forth week in a row I only got mats. Not wasting my time on that one any more. It's not even hard to do the raid. But this is frustrating and not motivating.

Do you understand what the term random is?

Just think about how hqppy you will be when you actually get the gear, i know i was. When i was lucky enough to get the last peice of raid gear for my warlock i took a victory lap around the house. The feeling of achieving that far exceeded the feeling when you get energy or shards