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11/12/2020 12:46:06 AM
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[quote]I think that gambit prime was the best version of gambit because of the armors perks that gave you an advantage and a role to play ( it gaves you a purpose )
Another thing that I liked was the damage phase for the boss it was really unique
I really wanted bungie to leave gambit as it was but the damage is already done
What do you think about the new gambit?[/quote]
Same. I played a bit last night, and I liked Prime a lot more. Seems like people haven’t figured out to bank at the same time to drain, and finding out the armour sets I grinded for are worthless is a bummer.
I guess it’s cool being the last of the reckoners, but I miss Prime already.
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Reckoner gang rise up.
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Because that isn’t the optimal strategy if you aren’t playing with a team. It’s more important that you get to “first invade” during mote collection. With the nerf to blocker and the inability of an invader to lock your bank, dropping multiple blockers isn’t the steamroll it used to be. An experienced Sentry with a shotgun will clear up whatever blockers you send over in short order unless it’s timed with an invade. In that sense, the hybrid plays more like original Gambit during more collection. Banking motes, and clearing out blockers quickly is more important than sending blockers and trying to drain motes.
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[quote]Because that isn’t the optimal strategy if you aren’t playing with a team. It’s more important that you get to “first invade” during mote collection. With the nerf to blocker and the inability of an invader to lock your bank, dropping multiple blockers isn’t the steamroll it used to be. An experienced Sentry with a shotgun will clear up whatever blockers you send over in short order unless it’s timed with an invade. In that sense, the hybrid plays more like original Gambit during more collection. Banking motes, and clearing out blockers quickly is more important than sending blockers and trying to drain motes.[/quote] It for sure is the optimal strategy. If the other team is leaving behind a “sentry” to clear blockers you get so much further ahead in add clear and banking plus an invader while they can’t bank. It’s the only way you can effect the other side without invading.
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Editado por TheArtist: 11/13/2020 6:21:08 PMIt’s not the optimum strategy [i]if you’re playing with randoms.[/i] Trying to coordinate to drop multiple blockers at one time....especially if it isn’t being time to coincide with an invasion...is letting Perfect be the Enemy of Good Enough. Because the lack of headphones and callouts means you’ll be [i]slow[/i] to deposit, and will accomplish little more than increasingly the likelihood of your side losing the race to First Invade....and getting caught holding a crap ton of motes. Once again the lack of headphones and callouts make it hard to mount the coordinated defense necessary to consistently suppress an invader. When playing with randoms it’s a recipe to get your clock cleaned unless you’re either playing with a team or have an invader that is a one-man wrecking crew. If you’re playing with randoms it is more important to bank motes and invade than it is to drop multiple blockers and drain motes.
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[quote]It’s not the optimum strategy [i]if you’re playing with randoms.[/i] Trying to coordinate to drop multiple blockers at one time....especially if it isn’t being time to coincide with an invasion...is letting Perfect be the Enemy of Good Enough. Because the lack of headphones and callouts means you’ll be [i]slow[/i] to deposit, and will accomplish little more than increasingly the likelihood of your side losing the race to First Invade....and getting caught holding a crap ton of motes. Once again the lack of headphones and callouts make it hard to mount the coordinated defense necessary to consistently suppress an invader. When playing with randoms it’s a recipe to get your clock cleaned unless you’re either playing with a team or have an invader that is a one-man wrecking crew. If you’re playing with randoms it is more important to bank motes and invade than it is to drop multiple blockers and drain motes.[/quote] All it takes is the random players trying to work together and paying attention to when others are banking. This my original comment. It’s really easy to just look around and play with your team when you play gambit. Some people won’t understand that unless you say it I guess.
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It’s easy for ONE person to do that. Getting FOUR people on that same page without the benefit of being able to communicate is a recipe for losing. Because, while you’re trying to get organized, a more efficient team is going to get to 25 motes...invade... and send your team running for their lives. And digging a hole that will be difficult to get out of.
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[quote]It’s easy for ONE person to do that. Getting FOUR people on that same page without the benefit of being able to communicate is a recipe for losing. Because, while you’re trying to get organized, a more efficient team is going to get to 25 motes...invade... and send your team running for their lives. And digging a hole that will be difficult to get out of.[/quote] All it takes is four people playing for the team, which is easy to find if people discuss it instead of smashing discussion down with proclamations of bad tactics winning. I play Gambit solo most of the time and still have 946 wins, and you don’t need to look it up because you have 296. Instead of making a false equivalency (a 4 stack ALWAYS has a communication advantage no matter what a team of 4 solos matched against them does). All it takes is players doing what’s ACTUALLY good in Gambit to beat them. In the new Gambit that means banking with your team mates.
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Because the conditions you are supposing as your starting condition [i]dont exist[/i] when you are solo queuing in Gambit. Seriously. When was the last time you soloed it? Because on PlayStation it’s hard enough to simply find four people who are willing to play to the objectives. If you’re lucky you’ll get that about 50% of the time. What you are calling for you simply don’t see in Gambit, and you maybe saw in one match in three playing Gambit Prime. Unless you are playing with a team, if you try to play this new game like it’s the same old Gambit Prime you are going to get stomped by a team that knows what they’re doing, and know that the game doesn’t have to be played around the set bonuses anymore. And that you can’t count on a multiple blocker drop to halt the progress of the other team.
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[quote]Because the conditions you are supposing as your starting condition [i]dont exist[/i] when you are solo queuing in Gambit. Seriously. When was the last time you soloed it? Because on PlayStation it’s hard enough to simply find four people who are willing to play to the objectives. If you’re lucky you’ll get that about 50% of the time. What you are calling for you simply don’t see in Gambit, and you maybe saw in one match in three playing Gambit Prime. Unless you are playing with a team, if you try to play this new game like it’s the same old Gambit Prime you are going to get stomped by a team that knows what they’re doing, and know that the game doesn’t have to be played around the set bonuses anymore. And that you can’t count on a multiple blocker drop to halt the progress of the other team.[/quote] I have almost always solo’d it. When someone wants to discuss patrols that would be a better time for you to chime in. I never said it should be played like the old Gambit Prime (which I’m not sure how you can understand how that worked with 5 wins), but you suggested it in your reply. People playing Gambit should always play with their team instead of trying to force their own opinion of what is the best thing to do. If someone is clearing adds when they should be banking you can join them and help them clear then follow them to bank. It’s pretty simple. And to be very clear: I didn’t say multiple blocker drops would HALT the progress of the other team. It does effect the other side in that they have to stop clearing and banking to clear the blockers, AND if they don’t clear them they get drained. It’s still the best strat to bank full blockers early and with the team. I’ve played over a thousand Gambit games Prime/regular, and that’s the most reliable way to be successful with a matchmade team.
