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3/9/2019 12:40:21 AM
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Not losing points in competitive? [Poll]
I think one of the most frustrating things in this game is playing competitive and the losing points system.
Some people will say it is part of the game mode and some people like me will say it is frustrating because of bluberries leaving games, no solo que, people lagging, error codes, people kicked out of games by lag, recovs, people who reached max score easy get in the pool with people who are trying to get there, cheaters, etc
In my opinion they can raise the score to legend to 10000 and no max score so players keep going up. This way you will still have your ranking and match making will be more fair and losing a lot less frustrating.
Everybody has their opinion of course so I just created this poll to see what the general thought about this is.
Edit: I like people discussing this and at least thinking about a way on how to improve the competitive points system that is unforgiving.
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3 RespuestasEditado por Fort: 3/11/2019 3:23:29 AMThat’s how a ranked system works. What bungie actually needs is placement matches, and to stop putting solos against stacked teams. Edit: and to stop taking points when a teammate leaves
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1 RespuestaLosing points is fine, but it may be a bit too punishing which pushes players away from the playlist. And ultimately we want more people in the playlist. Perhaps a mechanic to get back lost points could be a solution. Something similar to the D1 Iron Banner loss coins could work. Max stack of two and they give you half the points of a win. And only make them available to heroic 3 and under. After fabled, you need to win outright.
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4 Respuestasid rather have it so if im going for luna i dont go against other people that already have it, kinda seems backwards ow and lock matchmaking so people that are under 1000 dont even end up against 2000+ players which i have had happen to me... im solo see so it feels like i missed out on getting luna, like the only way i would have got it is if i went for it as soon as it was added to the game.
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1 RespuestaEditado por beastbread: 3/9/2019 10:54:36 PMGet rid of point loss and just make it so no points are gained or lost at all on a loss. This way, the only way you move forward is with wins.
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4 RespuestasWhy are people looking to go into the competitive playlist so against competition? What exactly is competitive about having no drawbacks or risks
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Bad idea, ruins the entire point of a ranked playlist. Here’s my idea, it involves making pinnacle weapons more accessible AND increasing comp participation https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/251277519/0/0
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4 RespuestasThey've made comp ranking easier twice. Geez, if it's si hard for you to rank up, maybe pvp aint your thing.
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I think they should make Glory depend more on your personal performance than entirely on whether you win or lose. It's punishing against a good player to lose points just cause they got matchmade into a bad team - that player should advance even when losing since it would better reflect his or her skill level.
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Editado por Kaus Media: 3/9/2019 11:23:58 PMI think losing score is fine, it just is so punishing as it is right now. Maybe lose less? Or here is a better idea: How they tweak the matchmaking so that you aren't put up against people who are way stronger than you are. And if you lose to tougher opponents, you don't lose as much score as losing to people who aren't as good. However, this must be based on a team evaluation, not just and independent evaluation of score/rank.
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Before I give my rating answer, is there a point difference for a “good loss” and a blowout?
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8 RespuestasWhat the hell???? Have you ever played any competitive gamemode in any game?? The whole thing is about better players being at higher ranks and worse players being at lower ranks?? God damn pve bots at it again
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1 RespuestaNegative progression should be removed because it’s a game not a hobby. I feel bad when I see people just get completely destroyed in crucible and I know right away there never coming back. Smaller groups of people playing will kill the game. I got my Luna’s it was fun but aw we went for not forgotten it was bad. DDOSing was horrible. And I was suspended when it wasn’t my fault.
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3 RespuestasOnly should lose points when Legend
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I think it's a damn lovely idea. Absolutely hate carrying my team all the time to just lose. Hate going up against teams so far ahead in comp points when my teammates are all blueberries. I only play comp to get the pinnacle weapons other than that it's complete garbage.
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Losing points is completely inappropriate for a mode where you're consistently match made with people on the other side of the continent you reside and where the server client model is peer to peer. Bungie really need to fix this model. Peer to peer is the main root of all evil in this affair, with locality match making bringing up the rear. FPS combat is never a good idea peer to peer. My disappointment in PvP because of this is really making me want a refund right now.
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Editado por WEREWOLF 1188: 3/9/2019 2:56:12 PMThats exactly how it should work. It should be a long grind. Losing points is just an unnecessary complication and it has nothing to do with competition. It's only makes people toxic on forums. Win, get a points, lose, dont get a points. We already pay for the whole game contend, so everyone should have a chance to get it if they want, no matter how some elitists, eGamers and streamers feels about it. Make a points based list. The better your performance, the higher you are in the list. The names of three best players are displayed in the tower, near the Shaxx. And give some unique shaders and emblems for reseting your glory rank 3 times in one season. That would be enough.
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9 RespuestasMaybe lose less points. That would become quickplay instead of comp. Getting the rewards from comp wouldnt be as worth if you didnt have some draw back to losing games.
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2 Respuestasno , if that happens comp will become quickplay
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1 Respuesta•Have checkpoints for ranks •Points losses shouldn't be so severe it should be equal at least to a win. •Matchmaking by ranking I don't know who's tanking their points cos I'm just facing Luna's and not forgotten
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I think if matchmaking was better it wouldn’t be an issue, but with full teams playing against 4 randoms... it’s a slight issue; and should be addressed That said, comp playlist should lose points for losses, tho I believe the loss streak shouldn’t be a thing
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I could see checkpoints being a thing that wouldn't destroy the idea of comp but no lost points? Gotta say nooooope.
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1 RespuestaYou should lose something for a loss. Just maybe not so many points til you are a much higher rank.
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You should still lose points, just less.
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6 RespuestasIt's annoying but very rewarding when you eventually get to your goal. Many people even got there using solo queue.
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3 RespuestasImagine this and this is happening a lot. You play solo. You end up with 3 players because someone left or lagged out. Now you have to play with 3 against 4. These 4 people are all together and they have a guy with them that is good but has a really bad internet connection that you barely can do damage on him. Going out of this frustrating game gives you a ban for 20 minutes so you decide to stay in knowing you will get wrecked. Finally Shax mercies you. You end up with a 0. Something ka/d, you lose 60 points now cause you lose double points nowadays and if you were on a streak you lose that too. Now count how many times you get punished in a game: 3v4, lag, fireteam vs solo, communication vs no communication, losing points, losing streak, bad stats and if you leave 20 minute ban.
