It sounds like you were just abysmal at the raid lol. I actually laughed when I read your first con as anyone who's done vog many times knows you can literally look at the tower to see your progress XD and the plates being far apart.... You kill a few ads and a Minotaur every what minute or 40 seconds..... Really not a challenge them or now. Everything sounds like you played the easy strats so voluntarily tossing some challenge out the window, don't complain it's boring when YOU DID IT THE BORING WAY XD. Any one who was a hardcore pve player right off the get go in this game is laughing at your cons. Not able to get through the maze so one person does it while people sit in orbit.... Couple things wrong there, a minimum of 3 people need to be present in the activity for you to even be able to pass the maze, and again you've opted for the easy way lol. Jesus the stupidity of this post made my day

[quote][b]Sync Plates[/b] Cons -Dear god when is the spire gonna form? You didn't have too much of a way to check your progress.[/quote] Try looking at the big gigantic spire forming behind you. [quote] -The plates were so far apart that teamwork between plates really only happened when the middle shot a harpy on the right or something.[/quote] Once the spire starts forming you no longer have to stand on the plates anymore meaning you're free to run around and spawn camp the enemies together. [quote]Comparisons: Honestly, the first Vosik encounter is a lot more dynamic and engaging, and is a reasonable difficulty.[/quote] All it is is running, throwing balls, and shooting a boss that gets infinitely stumbled. There's not much to it either. [quote][b]Confluxes and Oracles[/b] Cons -Dear god. One person dies and sht hits the fan. The templar is trying to -blam!- one person the whole time. The best strategy for the legions was to literally hide in a hole. Hobgoblins are trying to send bullets into your skull all over (was it hobgoblins during this part? Can't remember.) -And oracles? Let me just say two things. "Is it over yet?" And "let's camp with icebreaker"<- literally the most boring times I've ever had in a raid. [/quote] Well you ruined it for yourself by cheesing both of these parts. The legions phase is an amazing orb farm and was very fun for voidwalkers at the time, if you actually stayed on fought everything as they walked up the steps. The oracles was a test to separate the men from the boys. In a lot of groups, there would usually be one or two people that would carry and destroy most of the oracles. As the rounds progress the lesser players usually died which let the good players shine. I assume this is why you didn't like the oracles. Also, hobgoblins would never hit you if you were always on the move, that's the entire point of the encounter, was to never stop and destroy all the oracles from around the map. But again you ruined it for yourself by camping up top. [quote][b]Gorgon's maze, and the things before it[/b] Cons The things before it... [i]endless falling[/i] -Gorgon's maze went a few ways ways. You try a few/ one time(s) and get it, you try about 20+ times and get it, or one person literally pulls through while your team sits in orbit. This is [b]not[/b] a fun encounter if you can't do it. [/quote] The endless falling just adds to the scenery and most players would agree that they appreciate this section. Any good leader can lead a team of newbies through the maze on their first try. Once again you ruined it for yourself. You complain about the raid but you only seem to play half of it. [quote][b]Gatekeeper[/b] Cons -"Cleanse me!" *falls off map* -Hey look, literally camp at a portal while minotaurs come through. -Another conflux to defend by the way Pros I guess having two aegises was nice.[/quote] Another section that separates the men from the boys. Two good players could do this part for your entire team. [quote][b]Atheon[/b] The big guy. Cons: -Oracles everywhere. Not too much of a problem with a good team, but honestly, a good team will go through 10x faster. -When you don't get teleported ever -When one person always gets the aegis Pros: The scenery is nice Comparisons: Compared to aksis, Aksis is much more challenging. Also, more people can be included in relics.[/quote] The only challenging part about Aksis is playing with morons. It only takes one moron to screw up their part to ruin it for everyone else. That just ruins the entire thing for me. The guy doesn't even shoot back, he literally sits there for thirty seconds and lets you shoot at him. Such mechanics. Much difficulty. Wow. The Vosik fight was done the same way everytime. Complete the three phases, throw balls, meet in middle, point and shoot. And that's really the only way you can do it. The Templar fight has multiple strategies; fighting up top (the lame way), group up and don't worry about oracles (another lame way), spread out and destroy all the oracles, block all teleports (the real man way). You had the freedom to choose and move around where ever you want. At Vosik if you didn't stand at the back you'd have someone whine about going up too far. I liked VoG the best because you only needed one good buddy and you could carry an entire LFG team on your own, without relying on moron teammates that would cause entire team wipes in other raids. If one person died I wouldn't have to jump off the edge.

Have only done Vog & Crota, never attempted the next 2, Not a fan of raids in general, from a solo, anti social players point of view

I played VoG on hard earlier today, I enjoyed it. It was very fun!

I loved VoG, running the relic was fun.

Most groups that cant get through the gorgons maze are just full of idiots that think they know how to do it better than the guy telling them how to actually do it, ive timed it on normal and hard and normal literally takes 8 seconds from spawning in to get to the hole, and hard takes 14 seconds, and neither ways require jumping on that stupid -blam!-ing rock everyone thinks is a great idea.