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12/9/2015 6:48:39 AM
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What's So Special About A Titan?
There's something I don't understand...
If Warlocks have the most Recovery
And Hunters have the most Agility
Shouldn't Titans then have the most Armor?
Warlocks noticeably recover (able to regain their health) faster than any other class, and apart from Titan skating, Hunters have the most noticeable agility (able to run away from certain death),
but for some reason if a Titan has noticeably the most armor (longest time till death) everyone is outraged and claims that it is unbalanced.
But wait wait wait, isn't that the point of each class? To be different in a specific way with each class to it's preferred attribute?
So why? Why is it that a Titan can't have the most armor? NOTICEABLY so. How is it okay that Warlocks seemingly step out of the line of fire and within 2 seconds have already started regaining health, or that Hunters are able to slip away from the battlefield and avoid gunfire, but Titans aren't allowed to take more damage before dying?
Now don't take this the wrong way I agree that time to kill should be the same no matter what class, but since that's the case, why are agility and recovery, two aspects that are just as important not equal too?
You may say they don't play a big role, at least not as much as armor, but then what does the Titan have if the one thing they are supposed to be good at is set to equal on the battlefield? What is so special about them?
Warlocks still maintain their lightning fast recovery, Hunters still keep their quick feet, but Titans.... they lack anything special because the one thing they had everyone decided was overpowered and unfair.
Now this isn't a rant about the new nerf, it's a question in general about a Titan and it's role. However, that being said the fact that a Sunbreaker Titan could tank a golden gun, or a sniper shot to the head put it where it belonged with it's armor rating. People were seemingly outraged that Titans had more armor (only while supered, not even just in general). But isn't that the point of a Titan?!? They were designed to be the tank class! Take hits left and right and keep on chugging, but this community and Bungie listening to the community (specifically about Titans) has completely taken away what a Titan is.
So what's so special about them? Before Taken King they lacked anything special, nova bomb was an improved fist of havoc, a ward of down could be shut down by almost any other super, and they didn't even have the armor to their name.
Fast forward, and the Sunbreaker arrives on scene, and finally the Titan is a force to be reckoned with! Enough armor to be called a Titan, killing power to rival it's lore, but then.... complaint after complaint and the Titan once again looses what it's supposed to be, it looses anything that makes it special. It can't tank a golden gun, it can't tank a headshot. It's balanced, "Just like the other classes", but it's not; it doesn't have the same recovery, it doesn't have the same agility, but it sure does have the same armor.
What's So Special About A Titan? Just a Hammer, their Lightning Fists, and a Bubble.
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I have been summoned
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Exposed butt cheeks, everyone else hide their butt
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4 RespuestasWhy don't we have a noticeable better stat? Because once we did get armor, limited to the super even. We instantly became OP. I mean we played all of year 1 handicapped, then sunbreaker happened and we were the top ked of all subclasses. So they had to nerf us!
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The real power of a titan is defender with wol 2 suppression grenades or magnetic
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5 RespuestasTitans are faster than Hunters, the so called "agility class." You also have slightly more max health than us in PvP.
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So, first of all, my knowledge on the matter is rather nonexistent as I just sinply play and rage to myself; but judging from your read, I feel like looking at armor as an overall thing is the wrong way the devs go about it. Increase the titans overall armour rating if he/she is getting shot in the body or leg/arm but keep headshots a one hit kill. This not only allows titans to survive sloppy sniper hits but rewards precise aiming on others part. As for golden gun, feel like it should also be similar in that headshots will one hit but a body won't on strictly titans. It makes hunters think a little more about how to use it and think whether or not they should aim for that titan or his more softer teammates. I'm not really a titan myself, used that free instant level 25 on it and that's about it. So everything I said will probably be meaningless and flushed but it's a nice middle ground I think for people. Taking down classes should provided strategies outside of mindlessly shooting without considering who you're actually shooting.
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https://youtu.be/eJOouHTpQ0c
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2 Respuestas#1 titans are sexy #2 warlocks are sexy #3 hunters are sexy Problem solved?
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2 RespuestasWho says these classes are supposed to have a role? This isn't an rpg. These gaurdians are simply classes with different abilities and aesthetics. Ward of dawn being [i]shutdown[/i] by other supers doesn't really mean anything. FoH can shut down most supers in the game, does that mean other supers other than FoH are garbage? Also the point of ward of dawn is for you and your teammates to grab the buff and to go on killing the other team, not stay and hide inside it making yourselves a freaking bullseye. Have you seen what happens when two or more to titans coordinate their bubbles? Titans can achieve max armor which let's you survive certain situations [i]ie running into a trip mine.[/i] Is that noticeable or good enough? Anything stronger and people would probably cry nerf get real. I really can't believe or understand why you didn't see that hammer of sol needed a nerf. There's hundreds of topics you can search for the these forums about hammer of sol. You might need extra towels for all the tears when reading through them.
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The armor stat actually help, whether you notice it or not. It takes effect when your shields are down, and when you're red barred. I mix it with recovery, and put agility all the way down [spoiler]who needs agility when you're a Titan?[/spoiler]
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Editado por PeytonicMaster: 12/14/2015 2:14:04 PMTitan is the weak class fact that scrubs forcing bungie to nerf titan and be the same looser as year 1 if it wasn't for them titan would be great as hunter
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8 RespuestasSimple answer? Because there are more hunters out there than any other class. Hunters be bitches yo. Hunters have to cry and blame something anytime they die because hunters are elitist assholes. This coming from a guy who used to main a hunter until i found out how hunters are. So going back to my first point, Bungie wants to please the majority. There is no such thing as balanced in this game because true balance would leave the majority still bitching. So Bungie tries to make the most people happy they can. So in the end, hunters will always have their way. If a hunter cant one shot snipe - shade step everything on the map there will be a revolt.
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Editado por frog: 12/14/2015 11:22:48 AMYou can have max armor stat with striker
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[quote]There's something I don't understand... If Warlocks have the most Recovery And Hunters have the most Agility Shouldn't Titans then have the most Armor? Warlocks noticeably recover (able to regain their health) faster than any other class, and apart from Titan skating, Hunters have the most noticeable agility (able to run away from certain death), but for some reason if a Titan has noticeably the most armor (longest time till death) everyone is outraged and claims that it is unbalanced. But wait wait wait, isn't that the point of each class? To be different in a specific way with each class to it's preferred attribute? So why? Why is it that a Titan can't have the most armor? NOTICEABLY so. How is it okay that Warlocks seemingly step out of the line of fire and within 2 seconds have already started regaining health, or that Hunters are able to slip away from the battlefield and avoid gunfire, but Titans aren't allowed to take more damage before dying? Now don't take this the wrong way I agree that time to kill should be the same no matter what class, but since that's the case, why are agility and recovery, two aspects that are just as important not equal too? You may say they don't play a big role, at least not as much as armor, but then what does the Titan have if the one thing they are supposed to be good at is set to equal on the battlefield? What is so special about them? Warlocks still maintain their lightning fast recovery, Hunters still keep their quick feet, but Titans.... they lack anything special because the one thing they had everyone decided was overpowered and unfair. Now this isn't a rant about the new nerf, it's a question in general about a Titan and it's role. However, that being said the fact that a Sunbreaker Titan could tank a golden gun, or a sniper shot to the head put it where it belonged with it's armor rating. People were seemingly outraged that Titans had more armor (only while supered, not even just in general). But isn't that the point of a Titan?!? They were designed to be the tank class! Take hits left and right and keep on chugging, but this community and Bungie listening to the community (specifically about Titans) has completely taken away what a Titan is. So what's so special about them? Before Taken King they lacked anything special, nova bomb was an improved fist of havoc, a ward of down could be shut down by almost any other super, and they didn't even have the armor to their name. Fast forward, and the Sunbreaker arrives on scene, and finally the Titan is a force to be reckoned with! Enough armor to be called a Titan, killing power to rival it's lore, but then.... complaint after complaint and the [quote]Titan once again looses what it's supposed to be, it looses anything that makes it special. It can't tank a golden gun, it can't tank a headshot. It's balanced, "Just like the other classes", but it's not[/quote]; it doesn't have the same recovery, it doesn't have the same agility, but it sure does have the same armor. What's So Special About A Titan? Just a Hammer, their Lightning Fists, and a Bubble.[/quote]
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1 RespuestaEditado por Killmonger: 12/10/2015 2:14:45 PMShould the super of been toned down a bit yes but there's a right and a wrong way to do it and they did it completely wrong. The thing with the sunbreaker subclass is that bungie made the the whole subclass revolve around hammer of sol. It wasn't like the nightstalker subclass where you have all these other options in your skill tree like shadstep, smoke bomb, quiver etc etc that can make you a deadly force when used right. Sunbreaker had nothing of the sort everything good we had in that subclass could only be obtained only through using our super. So nerfing things like cauterize and reducing our damage resistance killed that subclass. Yes we have striker and defender and I use those classes more than I did sunbreaker but you need to understand I paid money for the taken king especially when I saw our new subclass and I want to be able to use that subclass from time to time but at its current state its not that good outside of rumble and maybe skirmish. People can disagree if they like but you are your either a hunter that cried for the nerf in the past, a titan looking for likes from hunters, or just not willing to think outside the box for a second. Bungie to be honest should've either left cauterize the way it was and bring the damage resistance down or raise the damage resistance and put cauterize at 2 or 3 secs but never nerf both.
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It'd create too much imbalance if they had significantly more armor. Imagine if a Titan could take four head shots from a scout rifle and every other class died from three. The armor does come into play with things like surviving close calls from a grenade or a burn. Maybe a grenade plus one hand cannon shot kills a hunter, but the same damage leaves the Titan with a sliver of health. Anything more than that and it could really screw up the game.
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the thing is, with titan skating and cauterise, along with too much armour on sunbreaker, with 7 golden gun shots and 23ish seconds of run time, Sunbreaker was a good super that was better than all the classes main aspects at once. Titan skating made them the fastest, Cauterise gave them instant recovery. And they got massive armour as well. Okay, sunbreaker did get nerfed a bit too much. But that does not mean it should not have been nerfed.
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5 RespuestasI may main a Warlock but I'm completely with you on this. Titans are supposed to have the most armor, Titans should take 2 people to take down or a decently skilled single person. I agree with you that Titans are being dragged down and it's a shame what the nerf callers have been doing to this once glorious game.
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Titan was my day 1 character, I barely have time to play any other class.
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Ok, titans should have max armor and take more than one sniper shot to kill. But, since they are the slowest the will be in slow motion, slow enough that any hunter can see the bullets and easily dodge them. Warlocks will have be able to recover there heal If they don't get shot at for 1.5 seconds. There now Every class is "special"
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2 RespuestasTitans can have max armor
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Tiger knees
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They don't bitch like hunters.
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Still a sunbro for life
