Maybe its just me, but perhaps you just dont know the means to tackle a warlock. They are supposed to do things that seem the most, "magical" which is why they have a lot of abilities. Yet what do you play, Hunter or Titan? If you play Hunter, you have no right to complain, you have a lot of flexible options by talents alone. If you play Titan, you have a more limited skillset, but its still something that is simple in concept to use but harder to master. Warlocks are very beatable. They are squishy and slow. Their only advantages with high recovery is that they can heal faster and any debuffs (EX, blind from flashbangs or thorn DOT) wont last as long as it would normally on others. Even with the Ram, they are very predictable and beatable. I've actually seen people freak out more against defender titans, because most wont expect a defender titan to be an offensively ruthless SOB, thats exactly what I do and well, as defender I use depection, lots of it, and usually end up at the top of control matches. Warlocks have ranged melee, but thats it. Their grenades are average, void is simple. Scatter is not much, Axion Bolt is easy to avoid. NovaBomb, just get freaking hi and backpedal. Blink isnt much of an issue for them like it is on bladedancers, they are easier to catch due to lower default speed. Likewise, use a suppressor grenade, what do they have then? What can a mage do when they are silenced? Only run or die. Well yes I am a defender and suppressors will ruin anyones day. But the point is, they are very predictable. Even sunsingers, its either going to be radient skin or fireborn. Their situation is the same, for grenades its just really solar, I never see many use fusion or firebolt grenades. For melee, just scorch shield and sometimes solar wind, but even then its beatable. A shotgun does wonders on them more than a defender with force barrier. I've taken shotgun blasts with force barrier and relenetless with untouchable, they freak out when Im a juggernaunt that wont fall. As for their super, just be ready to double tap if you saw their level icon flashing yellow. Its always funny to get 2 kills on fireborn users who try to get revenge even when you are close by, I mean as a striker at times, when I had aftershocks on, if I killed them with a super (along with others) they revive in the middle of the aftershocks and just die again. So yeah, sunsingers get ready for a double tap. Its beatable, they are very vulnerable. I can make it simple for you: -There are so many warlocks and hunters in the cruicble, its easy and predictable to take out just about anyone of them. Even "good" hunters and warlocks generally fall into the same tactics. Titans on the other hand, the ones that play tactically given their limited skillsets and abilities and being the least played for PVP, well when a good titan is around and you have a striker not using their super on one guy and a defender that uses offensive means and rallies a team, then thats when people panic. You should beware the smart titan players, not warlocks. Even as a titan, some of my hardest and most stubborn foes have been well, titans, because even as one, I have faced them the least amount of times. Imagine my enjoyment when I faced a defender using similar tactics to me, it became a game of outthinking the other, beyond merely shooting.