[quote]I'm actually curious if there are very many of us that actually know how to do it and have done it. Didn't think i was gonna get all these replies. So yes they have patched us cheesing the templar and yes I've never completed the templar legit(not pushing off) because of my group always wanting to cheese. So I'm kind of excited to finally strategize in my own personal experience a new part of the game for me. I am a Hunter and held the relic for the cheesing you have no idea how bad i wanted to blast him with my super out of nowhere!! Haha[/quote] Did it my first raid, ever since then everyone wanted to push him. 1 against 5 does little good when you want to play a certain way. It was all good though but will be nice to play it the normal way