No no, the way I see it, is that the biggest forum complainers are the individuals who buy the base model of a vehicle without realizing it. Then go around complaining that the auto manufacturing along with the car salesman lied and cheated you out of the better amenities. I do agree that Destiny. is short and expectations were really high with immense help from the Developer and what was expected of the Developer from its history, however, as a playerbase we got to be patient. Hopefully, the Developer will learn from their mistakes and continously add on this new world. The game, Defiance, while a good back story, was a mess at launch and for the next year, but Trion kept updating the core game and today, its a good game, but far from complete.