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Edited by DarkSpyda04: 12/29/2013 1:04:12 AM
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Capcom blames core fanbase for RE6's failure

Are you a fan of the old school classic Resident Evil games such a RE1, RE2, or RE3? Well I have great news for you - Capcom is openly giving you the middle finger in one of their schemes to continue milking the Resident Evil name. This is because Resident Evil is not a game with integrity, but a cash cow that makes them money. [spoiler]His point was that while a majority of us were under 17 when we played the older games, they were not marketed toward us. They were usually marketed toward adults back then. (Although Toy Biz seems to contradict that in '98, so who really knows). But then again that goes in to the greater point I've made repeatedly in this thread. None of this is new. It's simply being publicly admitted that Capcom are willing to throw their own franchise and core fanbase under the bus to gain some investor good will. Remember awhile back Capcom's operating income plunged? It wasn't a huge deal because Capcom has been in that deep before. But at the same time it probably wasn't enough operating income to develop another current or next gen triple A product. The escapist article, which I'm now assuming I'm one of two people that read it points out that Capcom actually back pedaled and claimed RE6 was a success and re-affirmed RE's global brand recognition. Even though twice now they've said RE6 was a failure. They go on to say that Resident Evil is a recognized brand name that sends Hollywood execs into a tissy begging to help work on the next movie or game. There are a few key things to think about: 1.) That was a post on an investor relations website. Which meant it was written for current and potential investors. Investors give Capcom money, Capcom takes that money and publishes games. When those games are successful Capcom's stock grows, and the investors make a return. Thinking about that and the fact that Capcom's been a bit rough lately, makes it clear that this is a brochure aimed at convincing current and potential investors that Resident Evil, Capcom's pre-eminent flagship title, is still a powerful brand and not risking irrelevance. 2.) Where would any doubt of RE's relevance be coming from? Well RE6 kinda tanked. They expected 7 million and broke just over 5? And it took over a year and a half to do that? Investors are questioning the power of the brand. And suits, talking in the only language they know-- business, are trying to say RE6's failure is not coming from all the naysayers out there saying that it was a bad game. They're saying the established fanbase has grown out of gaming, that's why RE6 failed. They're saying RE6 did not fail because its a terrible game. 3.) The entire report is nothing more than a glorified marketing pitch to convince current and future investors that RE isn't on rocky ground. This is especially important within the context of Capcom's multiple failures of varying proportions regarding other projects, as well as current projects. Notice a few recurring themes in that brochure. RE is a global brand (as opposed to say, Monster Hunter) RE can collaborate and has collaborated with tons of entities to create merchandise. (They've been hocking toys and books and comics since '98) And lastly, Resident Evil is still a powerhouse and, as most people are probably thinking, is not fading into obscurity. What's any of this rambling mean to us fans? For starters it could've been fashion magazines or kitty litter brands, either way it's a statement to say that they can collaborate and that is supposed to signify the strength of the brand name. The age of who is and isn't growing in or out of gaming is merely an excuse. It's bold denial that they're the reason the franchise is faltering and that they're the ones driving it into the ground. Capcom constantly blames fans for failure to meet expectations. Lastly, they really don't know where the franchise is headed. And their investors might be losing confidence that Capcom can figure out what to do with it. This is not a bold marketing move. This is not something innovative. It simply means more of the status quo. Only this time they're openly admitting what many of us have been trying to point out. So yay for us. If you like the drivel they're putting out, congrats, it's likely to continue. If you don't, now you know you can stop trying to prop up Capcom and buying into their empty promises. Go support some good survival horror games and let RE die.[/spoiler] The following text was reiterated from the Capcom-Unity forum member "Harv"'s post shown above in spoiler tags http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/120511-Western-Resident-Evil-6-Reception-Doesnt-Worry-Capcom In the above article we see businessmen representing Capcom saying that Resident Evil is still successful despite RE6's clear failure not because they're stupid, but because they're smart. This article was written for investors and investors give Capcom money to make their games with in return for more money. The stock market is a gamble and if Resident Evil doesn't look like a good place to invest, Capcom doesn't get any of that sweet nectar. This is why they are saying that Resident Evil is still successful. How are they saying that Resident Evil is still successful? Simple. They say that RE6 wasn't a shitty game and that the core fanbase has just grown out of gaming. In doing so they are merely excusing the fact that they can't make good games. http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/feature/hit2013/02.html [quote]The longevity of the "Resident Evil" title also comes with problems. The main user group is now in their late-30s to 40s, and the average age is also going up as the series goes on with an increasing possibility that some percentage of the existing users will outgrow games altogether.[/quote] But it gets better. In an effort to see Resident Evil succeed (make money) as a brand, they are trying to garner new fans by appealing to a younger and wider audience in any way they can. Placing ads in fashion magazines, opening up Resident Evil-themed horror attractions (which suck), and just generally getting the name out there as much as possible. Pretty much anything they can do to sell a crappy game to as many people as possible so they can please investors and continue business. [quote]Therefore, there is a constant need to gain new users, and the creation of opportunities for exposure in fashion magazines was carried out as an example. However, obviously game information is not carried by fashion magazines. Therefore, we have created opportunities for receiving coverage in fashion magazines by collaborating with fashion brands which are popular among young people. We are also actively working on spreading name recognition among non-gamers through expansion in other industries, including the "Halloween Horror Night" event in alliance with Universal Studios Japan (USJ) and the opening of the "Resident Evil Café and Grill S.T.A.R.S." (a "Resident Evil"-themed restaurant) in Shibuya PARCO, Tokyo. These collaborative events are opportunities to be enjoyed by non-gamers as well, so it is important to plan them so that anyone can enjoy them and not aim them at a section of our core gamers.[/quote] Do you still have hope that RE7 will return to survival horror and be an excellent game? Well then I'll see you creating a thread that RE7 tanked when the game comes out. Resident Evil ain't nothing nowadays but a fully-decayed corpse that has already been embalmed and placed 6ft under. It's a zombie; a shuffling, blank-eyed, empty shell of what used to be. A shadow of its former self if you will. If you know anything about zombies, maybe you understand that there's no cure for zombification. I've been to the RE haunted house at universal and the scent was still that of rotting flesh and not in a good way. Instead of focusing on making a decent haunted house, they focused on impressing fans with dozens of game references and cool effects. Every person who I walked out with said something along the line of "WTF did I just go through?" Resident Evil is one among the undead. I'd advise you to abandon the franchise, remove your RE7 pre-order, and instead support the many other survival horror games out there such as Shinji Mikami's "The Evil Within". Capcom can't succeed if you vote with your wallet.

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  • Note to self: Never buy a Capcom game unless it is a remake of Alien vs Predator arcade.

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  • [quote]Our game Sucks?! No! Our fans suck.[/quote] I'd expect this from EA...

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  • I played a demo of RE6 it was boring as hell and I'll admit it was a bit better than raccoon city which was a piece of shit

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  • [quote]This is because Resident Evil is not a game with integrity, but a cash cow that makes them money.[/quote]So, like every franchise?

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    • Edited by Ad Hoc: 1/1/2014 1:28:02 AM
      I totally agree. RE 5 and 6 were shit. Capcom can blame their fans if they want, but we all know they're tanking because they make poor games.

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    • Classic stuff. Either way, there's no point in getting upset about this. Just quietly DO NOT buy future RE games. It seems like japanese companies (especially nintendo and squeenix) are hell bent on doing the opposite of obvious. Capcom could make an RE game in the vein of the classic games (with a focus on survival) for a fraction of the price of their recent michael bay style games, yet they wanna double down. It's like watching a group of idiotic republicans shut down the US gov, then proceed to throw each other under the bus when it's a political disaster.

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    • Lol. They didn't blame their fanbase, simply acknowledged that most of them have moved on or are in the process of doing so. That's practically a fact. Stupid internet overreacting to everything as usual.

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      • I thought this guy had a pretty strong opinion. yet another post from Capcom-Unity, this time from the user "Nikolaos" [spoiler]Yeah, I'm done with Capcom. I will just re-post my rant at Kotaku: This is the biggest pile of **** I've ever read in my entire life, and it's also the reason why Capcom will plummet all the way down to publisher hell. There is SO much idiocy in Capcom's HQ right now, it's embarrassing to think that this was, once upon a time, my favourite company. Yes, the original RE fanbase is now 40 years old. Does this mean that RE wouldn't make new fans? People who play Halo 4 are only people who played Halo 1 when it first came out? People who watch NBA are only people who watched NBA when it was established? People who play Call of Duty are only the people who played and bought Call of Duty 1? People who played Final Fantasy VII are only the people who bought and played Final Fantasy 1? Mighty Number 9 proved you wrong, Capcom. It proved you wrong when you thought that a franchise of yours wouldn't make any money and was completely unprofitable, and made you declare Megaman dead. Yet in just a few weeks, the MN9 project raised more than 3 million dollars. Dollars YOU could've made IF YOU STOP LICKING THE ASS OF THE CASUALS, AND KEPT ON MAKING HARDCORE GAMES FOR THE HARDCORE FANS. IF YOU MAKE HORROR GAMES, HORROR FANS WILL BUY THEM. IF A 40 YEAR OLD LEAVES THE FRANCHISE, ANOTHER 18 YEAR OLD HORROR FAN WILL TAKE HIS PLACE. BUT IF YOU TURN HORROR INTO ACTION, THE ONLY ONES WHO WILL BUY WILL BE OLD FANS WHO STILL HAVE MEMORIES OF WHAT RE USED TO BE!!! GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL!!! That's your ****ing problem, Capcom. You have completely alienated yourself from your fanbase, and started making casual games of questionable quality, alienating the hardcore fanbase which MADE YOU WHAT YOU ARE. This isn't about the fanbase growing old. It's about a company that has absolutely NO idea how to approach fans, how to make new and awesome ideas and just rips off the most successful western game in a horrible, horrible way. It's about a company that invests millions of dollars in USELESS advertising (Demon's Souls sold like hotcakes by word-of-mouth, and because it was awesome, not because of Hollywood-level ads), CGI sequences that no one gives a **** about, and made its games a total mess of guns, tits, tentacles and ass. You haven't learned a thing, considering you now wish to make RE7 be a cross between the Last of Us and Tomb Raider and make it some ... sort of ... fashion show. You're reacting instead of acting. Well, GO **** YOURSELF. RE is dead, long live The Evil Within. Darkstalkers are dead, long live Killer Instinct. Devil May Cry is dead, long live Castlevania Lords of Shadow. Dino Crisis is dead, long live Primal Carnage - Genesis. Mega Man is dead, long live Mighty Number 9. You think I'm too old, Capcom? Well, GO **** YOURSELF. I think you're too boring, casual, dated, greedy and SO FAR UP YOUR ASS, it's pathetic. Pathetic. ****. YOU!!![/spoiler]

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        • I got RE5 and didn't really like it, so never played it again.

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        • Edited by Oneironaut: 12/31/2013 11:25:52 PM
          Provided this wasn't about Crapcom, I would have read all of that, but I don't need to read several paragraphs to arrive at the conclusion that they don't know -blam!- all about anything. They'd be my number one favorite Dev/Publisher if they weren't so -blam!-ing stupid and arrogant. One positive thing I can say though, I read an article back in April where they stated they won't be handing their major titles out to third party US and European Devs any more (but that was announced back in April so hopefully they stuck with it). Crapcom (as well as a few other Devs and Publishers for that matter) need to get it in their -blam!-ing hollow heads that your core fans are what ultimately get you results. Stop taking idiotic risk by trying to appeal to new people (the same kind of people that usually talk shit about a series) 'cause I can bet everything I own that an unappealing change isn't going to get you sales especially with your already existing fans. You'll lose more than you gain.

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        • Its really a shame that marketing plays such a big role in the commercial success of games and movies. The business side to development becomes makes it difficult for small or new developers to earn any deserved attention and sales. Then we see established companies focusing on marketing instead of their titles. -Looking at you, Activision. At least Capcom isn't blatantly trying to sell violent games to kids.

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        • Aren't they only still alive because MS pumped money into DR3? #Capcombankruptcy2014

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        • Just another reason why I call them Crapcom now.

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        • Edited by Prototape: 12/31/2013 1:18:06 AM
          Resident Evil 6 is not a game, it's a semi-interactive experience. I've never played a game with more shackles, and if I didn't know better I would have thought it was just a joke or parody of how crazy some games are with QTEs these days. Hell, even Inversion felt more open than RE6 did, which is sad. If I'm in the mood for stupid fun, I'll play it, if nothing else to laugh about it as I go on. Though I can't say I've done that very often. It's an over-all bad game, whether or not you hold it up against the past games for contrast. It's not appealing to the 'core fanbase' and it's not appealing to potential future fans. I hadn't played a Resident Evil game since Outbreak, and after playing RE6, I can say for certain that I have no more interest in going back into the series. At least not any of the newer iterations. My interest was already very low to begin with.

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        • lol

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        • I love everything about this post because it's all so true. I played and beaten every RE game except for 6. I actually canceled my preorder after playing the demo.

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          • No Capcom you are to blame for ruining a horror series and make it action action action.

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          • Bye-bye Capcom!

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          • On the bright side, we'll probably all get to see capcom go under within the decade!

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          • Capcom is still a thing? Go back to making ch33zy games you find in arcades please

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          • So are triple A survival horror games a thing of the past now? It's all gonna be action horror with barely any effort to scare you now?

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              you see, i wanted a dino crisis remake/reboot all my life. not anymore.

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            • Edited by randomelite: 12/30/2013 4:18:27 AM
              Capcom can do what they want and fans of RE6 can do what they want; doesn't concern me either way. What does annoy me is those idiots who still think Resident Evil will deliver with RE7 and be this supar kewl survivill harrar gaem with zombehz and fixed camora engels. I thought there was a saying of "fool me once, shame on you but fool me twice, shame on me." Maybe I'm wrong and there's no such saying; maybe I'm just imagining things and Crapcom actually gives a damn.

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            • Is it safe to say that Capcom is worse than EA now?

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              • Good post, you put a lot of work into that. But yeah, Capcom is hemorrhaging money and intellect, and they're digging themselves more holes to get out of as time goes on, who knows when they'll stop mucking over the fanbase.

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                • Edited by Elrond Hubbard: 12/29/2013 1:24:02 AM
                  Capcom gives Eastern game devs a bad name.

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