[quote]Sbmm has good players being forced to play good and they mad cause there are better players and all of a sudden they realize that their run on the ladder wasn’t as high as they thought.[/quote] You realize it's sb that's the "fake" stat right? A 3.0kd player who matches 3.0kd opponents will end with both sides having around a 1.0 Except they are really 3.0kd players who would destroy 99% of the playerbase. So lmao @ "thier run on the ladder wasn't as high as they thought" - No. It's sb that gives bad players the FALSE sense they're suddenly competent. The 0.5kd players natch 0.5kd players and end up with a 1.0 and THINK they've improved. They haven't. Sb has simply given them the illusion they have. Then bungie swaps back to cb and they get completely ran again and realize thier actual skill is no where near what they thought it was when sb was manipulating thier games. [quote]The only argument you have against sbmm is as follows “I’m good at this game and I’m mad I have to play other people who are good at this game” Not a great argument but it’s all you got. As many of you pvp swears said before “get good”[/quote] Being inept at something doesn't mean you get special segregated treatment, if you suck at raids they don't become easier, if you suck at gms they don't become easier. Only in pvp do delusional players think sucking at something should mean they get easier treatment

[quote][quote]Sbmm has good players being forced to play good and they mad cause there are better players and all of a sudden they realize that their run on the ladder wasn’t as high as they thought.[/quote] You realize it's sb that's the "fake" stat right? A 3.0kd player who matches 3.0kd opponents will end with both sides having around a 1.0 Except they are really 3.0kd players who would destroy 99% of the playerbase. So lmao @ "thier run on the ladder wasn't as high as they thought" - No. It's sb that gives bad players the FALSE sense they're suddenly competent. The 0.5kd players natch 0.5kd players and end up with a 1.0 and THINK they've improved. They haven't. Sb has simply given them the illusion they have. Then bungie swaps back to cb and they get completely ran again and realize thier actual skill is no where near what they thought it was when sb was manipulating thier games. [quote]The only argument you have against sbmm is as follows “I’m good at this game and I’m mad I have to play other people who are good at this game” Not a great argument but it’s all you got. As many of you pvp swears said before “get good”[/quote] Being inept at something doesn't mean you get special segregated treatment, if you suck at raids they don't become easier, if you suck at gms they don't become easier. Only in pvp do delusional players think sucking at something should mean they get easier treatment[/quote] Hopefully you realize that the precious k/d means nothing in the real world. Unless you’re going for a gaming gig Next interview you gave tell them you got a 3.7 k/ d in crucible Let us know how that works out K/d means nothing. It won’t cure cancer, end hunger, or eliminate all that is wrong in the world

I didn't say kd mattered. I simply explained why of the 2 types of mm sbmm stats are fake as the system manipulates everyone to be a 1.0 kd I have a 0.9kd myself so not sure why you are talking about me using stats as a qualification for a job

[quote]I didn't say kd mattered. I simply explained why of the 2 types of mm sbmm stats are fake as the system manipulates everyone to be a 1.0 kd I have a 0.9kd myself so not sure why you are talking about me using stats as a qualification for a job[/quote] You brought up k/d not me. Just putting the k/d thing into perspective

[quote][quote]I didn't say kd mattered. I simply explained why of the 2 types of mm sbmm stats are fake as the system manipulates everyone to be a 1.0 kd I have a 0.9kd myself so not sure why you are talking about me using stats as a qualification for a job[/quote] You brought up k/d not me. Just putting the k/d thing into perspective[/quote] No I used an example of 2 very different types of players with opposite ends of kd having the same outcome under sbmm to showcase why sb stats are manipulated. You are the one claiming kd matters for job interviews

[quote][quote][quote]I didn't say kd mattered. I simply explained why of the 2 types of mm sbmm stats are fake as the system manipulates everyone to be a 1.0 kd I have a 0.9kd myself so not sure why you are talking about me using stats as a qualification for a job[/quote] You brought up k/d not me. Just putting the k/d thing into perspective[/quote] No I used an example of 2 very different types of players with opposite ends of kd having the same outcome under sbmm to showcase why sb stats are manipulated.[/quote] You care about your k/d. If you didn’t you would not have looked at my history. Not even bothering with yours, don’t care enough about it to matter My precious k/d. Lol

[quote][quote][quote][quote]I didn't say kd mattered. I simply explained why of the 2 types of mm sbmm stats are fake as the system manipulates everyone to be a 1.0 kd I have a 0.9kd myself so not sure why you are talking about me using stats as a qualification for a job[/quote] You brought up k/d not me. Just putting the k/d thing into perspective[/quote] No I used an example of 2 very different types of players with opposite ends of kd having the same outcome under sbmm to showcase why sb stats are manipulated.[/quote] You care about your k/d. If you didn’t you would not have looked at my history. Not even bothering with yours, don’t care enough about it to matter My precious k/d. Lol[/quote] Yeah I care about my kd because I checked when you even last played pvp while you respond to a pvp topic. Totally logical. Really.

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]I didn't say kd mattered. I simply explained why of the 2 types of mm sbmm stats are fake as the system manipulates everyone to be a 1.0 kd I have a 0.9kd myself so not sure why you are talking about me using stats as a qualification for a job[/quote] You brought up k/d not me. Just putting the k/d thing into perspective[/quote] No I used an example of 2 very different types of players with opposite ends of kd having the same outcome under sbmm to showcase why sb stats are manipulated.[/quote] You care about your k/d. If you didn’t you would not have looked at my history. Not even bothering with yours, don’t care enough about it to matter My precious k/d. Lol[/quote] Yeah I care about my kd because I checked when you even last played pvp while you respond to a pvp topic. Totally logical. Really.[/quote] Since you brought up my play time. Share how much crucible I’ve played last season Quit trying to spin the topic. You brought it up mentioned k/d and numbers. Now you act like you didn’t Smh You’re really grasping. Save yourself the trouble and walk away

No YOURE the one now trying to use kd as an argument. I haven't. How much of an L are you going to take before you stop digging? Not looking great bud

[quote]No YOURE the one now trying to use kd as an argument. I haven't. How much of an L are you going to take before you stop digging? Not looking great bud[/quote] You’re wrong, you brought up k/d said you didn’t care then said you do Still waiting for you to share all my pvp play time You’re grasping at air. You are synonymous with wrong

Nope, I listed random kds to showcase the illusion sb provides. YOU are the one who wrote about using kd on your resume 😂

[quote]Nope, I listed random kds to showcase the illusion sb provides. YOU are the one who wrote about using kd on your resume 😂[/quote] Does not change fact you care about k/d and that you brought it up. I would not have said a thing about k/d, you opened up that can of worms. You are aka one that said you care about your k/d, Hap to point out how blatantly wrong you are. You’re wrong will be wrong and will remain wrong Still waiting for you to post my pvp history. That’s something you brought up Nice alt accts btw. Gotta mute you, have fun playing this with yourself

[quote]The only argument you have against sbmm is as follows “I’m good at this game and I’m mad I have to play other people who are good at this game” Not a great argument but it’s all you got. As many of you pvp swears said before “get good”[/quote] Being inept at something doesn't mean you get special segregated treatment, if you suck at raids they don't become easier, if you suck at gms they don't become easier. Only in pvp do delusional players think sucking at something should mean they get easier treatment[/quote] So then please explain why the good players should get special treatment with cbmm going up against people below their skill level? That literally makes no sense. It’s an old argument but it’s like saying the highschool football team should not lay the NFL football team cause both teams play football.

[quote]So then please explain why the good players should get special treatment with cbmm going up against people below their skill level? That literally makes no sense.[/quote]They don't exclusively match people below thier skill level do they? They play everyone else like anyone else does. How is that special treatment? Sbmm on the other hand gives full 100% protection for weaker players from ever facing good ones. [quote]It’s an old argument but it’s like saying the highschool football team should not lay the NFL football team cause both teams play football.[/quote] Quickplay is like a pickup game of football in your neighborhood. Anyone who shows up plays. A guy who can barely throw a ball plays and a NFL player who lives in the neighborhood can also show up and will also play. There are no feelings of "no you aren't bad/good enough to play in our pickup game" If what you're looking for is not a pickup game but rather a competitive game where only similarly skilled players play then head for survival or elim which are built for that exact thing.

You’re saying this like PvP is played like a friendly pickup game. That NFL player wouldn’t be trying their hardest and ruining everyone else’s fun. They wouldn’t even try, they’d just mess around. Unless they were a bad person. Then they would revel in ruining it for everyone else. And they would also cry like babies on a forum about when finding out the rest of the neighborhood didn’t want to play with them anymore.

[quote]You’re saying this like PvP is played like a friendly pickup game. That NFL player wouldn’t be trying their hardest and ruining everyone else’s fun. They wouldn’t even try, they’d just mess around. Unless they were a bad person. Then they would revel in ruining it for everyone else.[/quote] That is completely dependent on the person. Some NFL players would try thier hardest. Some wouldn't. Just like some pvp sweats try thier hardest and some don't. [quote] And they would also cry like babies on a forum about when finding out the rest of the neighborhood didn’t want to play with them anymore.[/quote] The rest of the neighborhood wouldn't be crying about a pickup game. They'd accept its only a pickup game and move on with thier day. Unlike the lower tier playerbase who seem to take quickplay 6vs6 extremely seriously and then claim its the sweats who take it too seriously