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GMs will be at their worst next season if weapons aren’t guaranteed.

Went 3 runs in a row without seeing a single sniper. Better yet I have gone a lot more without seeing a decent roll I’m looking for. Not being a guaranteed drop is already frustrating after a 15-20 gm run but for more RNG to be implemented next season with 2 weapons in each pool is going to be a yikes. I’m fine with double drops as long as I’m 100% guaranteed a weapon from a GM completion. No to meanwhile you are basically removing the same strike farm at the end of the season so we may get stuck with GMs that are quite lengthy like glassway or scarlet keep. This move to add more weapons to the pool but not changing the rng just seems like a scummy way to get more play time out of us, it’s not enjoyable and I believe we might see less playtime next season because of it. Changes like this completely ignore player feedback and are just tone deaf. We need guaranteed drops or keep one weapon per week be the changes aren’t going to encourage me to farm.

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  • Team is looking into it. Hope to have more info before GMs roll out mid-season. Stay tuned!

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    • This is the post that gets a Bungie reply. The activity that less than 1 percent of the playerbase regularly participates in gets a "team is looking into it" reply after Bungie not posting on anything in literal months. Sums up the elitism we have in the game now. Hundreds of posts regarding pvp maps, vault space and other qol improvements that the whole community has been asking for within the past year gets literally no attention whatsover. Lets cater to streamers and the people who treat this game like a second job more. Nice.

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      • I ran it like 4-5 times last week and no adept sniper. This season its the only weapon i actually wanted and no dice. Hopefully i get one the last week of the season🤞

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      • This is day two of farming for Pali and I have 0 Pali drops this is a wack system. I’ve dismantled I don’t know how many shadow proves and swarms. Shouldn’t have to run this many without drops especially on double loot…

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      • i dissagree it's a looter shooter if you want the loot you have to shoot.

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      • Who the -blam!- wastes time on gms? Oh yah. Turkeys.

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      • Still won’t be played by 80% of the community

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        • The ability to farm double rewards this week with a single nightfall option seems to disagree with your opinion.

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        • I play Gm from time to time. Reason I don't play is I just don't find it very fun. Having to run certain this and that and hiding and peaking to get kills, just isn't fun to me. Something can be challenging, but doesn't need to be slowed to a crawl, because many things can 1 or 2 hit you. Why do we even have an artifact anymore, everything any good is either capped or disabled. If I spend all season, grinding stupid bounties you should be rewarded

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        • Ive always thought that they should be guaranteed because they are the only unique reward. If you want materials you can grind master nightfalls and it is more efficient, you aren't doing gms for materials you are doing them for adept weapons and when you do this hard activity for no reward it makes the loot incentive questionable

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          • Its fine. Get over it. It’s RNG not Gimmie 4 free

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            • i ran 10 inverted spires however like two weeks ago and i got 3 hung jurys. not great luck on drops there

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            • That doesn't make any sense. It shouldn't be guaranteed - the whole point of Adept weapons is that they are rare/something to work hard to achieve. The only reason Trials guarantees an Adept weapon at the end of a Flawless run is because of the time investment to get that Flawless - whereas a GM can be run in 15 - 20 minutes, easy. And they drop enough to where if you play the GM a couple times you generally get one. I wish everyone would stop asking for every end-game thing to be handed to them on a platter - the whole point of end-game loot is that it's better, therefore they make it harder to get. If some people had it their way, there would be nothing unique to strive for and it'd be pretty boring.

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              • Multiple weapons can definitely be a problem even with double drops I haven’t seen a Pali drop yet only done 3 so far. These aren’t the most fun things to sink hours of playtime on but I guess it is what is.

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              • tHe TeAm Is LoOkInG iNtO iT

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                • Im actually so damn suprised my RNG blessed me third GM run with a Quickdraw + Rangefinder Palindrome (Adept). Only thing i hate is how ugly it looks compared to the Igneous Hammer (Adept)... Hmmm maybe Transmog for weapons in the future please lol [spoiler]Joking obviously.. Maybe, idk. [/spoiler]

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                • Make gms harder

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                • I think I’ve been really lucky with the adept drops. When hung jury was available, I think I ran 10 GMs and got 8 hung jury out of it ( even though it’s not the tops I want). For the uzume, I ran only 6 runs and got 4. This week, I ran 1 GM and got 2 Palidromes. Want to know my secret? Go into GM and don’t expect too much. Most of the time, you’ll come out surprised.

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                • I’ve played so many nightfalls and only gotten cores 😔

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                • Your gonna wish for glassway bet anything corrupted will return of course i see lake of shadows also returning

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                • [quote]Went 3 runs in a row without seeing a single sniper. Better yet I have gone a lot more without seeing a decent roll I’m looking for. Not being a guaranteed drop is already frustrating after a 15-20 gm run but for more RNG to be implemented next season with 2 weapons in each pool is going to be a yikes. I’m fine with double drops as long as I’m 100% guaranteed a weapon from a GM completion. No to meanwhile you are basically removing the same strike farm at the end of the season so we may get stuck with GMs that are quite lengthy like glassway or scarlet keep. This move to add more weapons to the pool but not changing the rng just seems like a scummy way to get more play time out of us, it’s not enjoyable and I believe we might see less playtime next season because of it. Changes like this completely ignore player feedback and are just tone deaf. We need guaranteed drops or keep one weapon per week be the changes aren’t going to encourage me to farm.[/quote] Cucumbers

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                • I really think this is being made into more of a problem than it really is. Drop rates are fine, sorry you had bad luck tho. New weapons always good, and having the old season stuff gives players just joining back a way to miss fomo. We -blam!- and moaned for years that strikes were pointless, and now they have a decent pool of relevant loot and we're still somehow complaining. If youre gonna play it, youre gonna play it. Odds are that this is an issue for <5% of players.

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                  • Why are you wasting your time in GMs? Beyond the title there's no point.

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                  • Its definitely going to suck, I think by that point when GM's roll around with these double to triple weapon pools perhaps double rewards should be more active to balance out the fact your weighted chances aren't nearly as high if it honestly even matters in terms of roll drops on what you get but basically enable double loot when GMs are available in mass so that people can have better odds of getting the role they want. Personally my problems with GMs are 1: Slow as dirt and damn near impossible sometimes (proving grounds, Glass way) and definitely aren't rewarding enough for their difficulty. 2.They take too long to even be up to begin with they should just be available from the get go its not like its going to hurt anyone because the community as a whole don't do endgame content like raids,trials and GMs. 3. Adepts as a whole aren't entirely worth the effort like, yeah we get Celerity on trials and bottomless grief for gms intrinsicly now which is cool, but why don't they have additional perk slots like say the Vog weapons or they roll double slotted for more options. As the adept mods while nice rely too much on the framework of a weapon archetype to be worth slotting than actually offering a unique characteristic.

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                  • I’m not a fan of multiple weapons being available. There is already enough rng. I like the ability to farm for the weapon I actually want. Not adding another layer of rng to artificially inflate playtime.

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                  • Dont forget that Prosperity mod on your ghost. Im sitting on about 40+ adept snipers. Will sift through later if I have a godroll or not.

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