[quote]Nah, in D2 once you've done a raid once or twice it really isn't that difficult.[/quote] Well, you’ve completed DSC 9 times. If it’s not that difficult, why do you have the highest number of deaths in almost all of your runs? The funny thing is, you’re here judging people asking for x number of clears. As someone who has joined raid groups asking for only single digit clears and raid groups asking for 50+ clears, I can assure you, the raid goes a lot faster in the 50+ clear raid groups because everyone is familiar with all the roles. In raid groups asking for only single-digit clears, raids take way longer because a lot of people aren’t familiar with the roles and tend to stick with ad-clear duty. So when it comes time to assigning roles, there’s usually silence until someone steps up and wants to learn how to do something new. If anything, the players with the least number of clears are the ones looking for the carry because they lack experience and are used to killing enemies instead of an actual useful role in the raid. If you join groups asking for more than 50+ clears, you’re most likely raiding with players familiar with speed run strats.

That is because I tend to run with groups that a relaxed and like to screw around. Not every raid has to be a complete sweat fest. Additionally, # of deaths does not mean anything when it comes to a run. Context matters.

"If you join groups asking for more than 50+ clears, you’re most likely raiding with players familiar with speed run strats." Ahhh the boring people.

[quote]"If you join groups asking for more than 50+ clears, you’re most likely raiding with players familiar with speed run strats." Ahhh the boring people.[/quote] Would rather spend 25 minutes in a raid with them than 90 minutes in a raid with inexperienced players.

I'd rather enjoy the content. Speedruns usually involve a glitch of some sort so I generally dump those lists into the garbage. To answer your question thoroughly. I'd rather play with people I can not only rely on, but get my fill of enjoyment from the content on. In other words. I'd rather spend 90 minutes enjoying myself than letting content become trivial and boring due to speeding through it. So I've usually got 5 friends I can get a date and time to do nothing but raiding. As such my clears are never as high up as others but I've done my share of raiding in this current mess of a game. I think I scraped over 70 clears of GoS and honestly........I wish I hadn't. I got bored of GoS fast and the glitches made it happen quicker. DSC I've thoroughly enjoyed. But I knew too well I would burn out faster with it if I took to LFG during my downtime alone.

[quote]I'd rather enjoy the content. Speedruns usually involve a glitch of some sort so I generally dump those lists into the garbage. To answer your question thoroughly. I'd rather play with people I can not only rely on, but get my fill of enjoyment from the content on. In other words. I'd rather spend 90 minutes enjoying myself than letting content become trivial and boring due to speeding through it. So I've usually got 5 friends I can get a date and time to do nothing but raiding. As such my clears are never as high up as others but I've done my share of raiding in this current mess of a game. I think I scraped over 70 clears of GoS and honestly........I wish I hadn't. I got bored of GoS fast and the glitches made it happen quicker. DSC I've thoroughly enjoyed. But I knew too well I would burn out faster with it if I took to LFG during my downtime alone.[/quote] To each their own, but for people with a limited amount of time to play every week, the fastest option is always the best option.

[quote][quote]I'd rather enjoy the content. Speedruns usually involve a glitch of some sort so I generally dump those lists into the garbage. To answer your question thoroughly. I'd rather play with people I can not only rely on, but get my fill of enjoyment from the content on. In other words. I'd rather spend 90 minutes enjoying myself than letting content become trivial and boring due to speeding through it. So I've usually got 5 friends I can get a date and time to do nothing but raiding.As such my clears are never as high up as others but I've done my share of raiding in this current mess of a game. I think I scraped over 70 clears of GoS and honestly........I wish I hadn't. I got bored of GoS fast and the glitches made it happen quicker. DSC I've thoroughly enjoyed. But I knew too well I would burn out faster with it if I took to LFG during my downtime alone.[/quote] To each their own, but for people with a limited amount of time to play every week, the fastest option is always the best option.[/quote] Then I pity them for their poor timekeeping. -shrug- I salute anyone with limited time that does this game legit you dudes the real MVPs out here.

[quote][quote][quote]I'd rather enjoy the content. Speedruns usually involve a glitch of some sort so I generally dump those lists into the garbage. To answer your question thoroughly. I'd rather play with people I can not only rely on, but get my fill of enjoyment from the content on. In other words. I'd rather spend 90 minutes enjoying myself than letting content become trivial and boring due to speeding through it. So I've usually got 5 friends I can get a date and time to do nothing but raiding.As such my clears are never as high up as others but I've done my share of raiding in this current mess of a game. I think I scraped over 70 clears of GoS and honestly........I wish I hadn't. I got bored of GoS fast and the glitches made it happen quicker. DSC I've thoroughly enjoyed. But I knew too well I would burn out faster with it if I took to LFG during my downtime alone.[/quote] To each their own, but for people with a limited amount of time to play every week, the fastest option is always the best option.[/quote] Then I pity them for their poor timekeeping. -shrug- I salute anyone with limited time that does this game legit you dudes the real MVPs out here.[/quote] People have busy lives. Having limited time to play video games isn’t a sign of poor timekeeping, just a sign that they have responsibilities more important than gaming. They don’t have the luxury of being able to sit there for 2 hours just to complete a raid.

[quote][quote]I'd rather enjoy the content. Speedruns usually involve a glitch of some sort so I generally dump those lists into the garbage. To answer your question thoroughly. I'd rather play with people I can not only rely on, but get my fill of enjoyment from the content on. In other words. I'd rather spend 90 minutes enjoying myself than letting content become trivial and boring due to speeding through it. So I've usually got 5 friends I can get a date and time to do nothing but raiding.As such my clears are never as high up as others but I've done my share of raiding in this current mess of a game. I think I scraped over 70 clears of GoS and honestly........I wish I hadn't. I got bored of GoS fast and the glitches made it happen quicker. DSC I've thoroughly enjoyed. But I knew too well I would burn out faster with it if I took to LFG during my downtime alone.To each their own, but for people with a limited amount of time to play every week, the fastest option is always the best option.Then I pity them for their poor timekeeping. -shrug- I salute anyone with limited time that does this game legit you dudes the real MVPs out here.[/quote] People have busy lives. Having limited time to play video games isn’t a sign of poor timekeeping, just a sign that they have responsibilities more important than gaming. They don’t have the luxury of being able to sit there for 2 hours just to complete a raid.[/quote] Your choices will either extend your playtime or tighten it. Bungie can't be held accounted to people's life choices. So in some cases it is bad time keeping. In others it's choices made / responsibilites taken on. Still that doesn't justify glitching though.

[quote][quote][quote]I'd rather enjoy the content. Speedruns usually involve a glitch of some sort so I generally dump those lists into the garbage. To answer your question thoroughly. I'd rather play with people I can not only rely on, but get my fill of enjoyment from the content on. In other words. I'd rather spend 90 minutes enjoying myself than letting content become trivial and boring due to speeding through it. So I've usually got 5 friends I can get a date and time to do nothing but raiding.As such my clears are never as high up as others but I've done my share of raiding in this current mess of a game. I think I scraped over 70 clears of GoS and honestly........I wish I hadn't. I got bored of GoS fast and the glitches made it happen quicker. DSC I've thoroughly enjoyed. But I knew too well I would burn out faster with it if I took to LFG during my downtime alone.To each their own, but for people with a limited amount of time to play every week, the fastest option is always the best option.Then I pity them for their poor timekeeping. -shrug- I salute anyone with limited time that does this game legit you dudes the real MVPs out here.[/quote] People have busy lives. Having limited time to play video games isn’t a sign of poor timekeeping, just a sign that they have responsibilities more important than gaming. They don’t have the luxury of being able to sit there for 2 hours just to complete a raid.[/quote] Your choices will either extend your playtime or tighten it. Bungie can't be held accounted to people's life choices. So in some cases it is bad time keeping. In others it's choices made / responsibilites taken on. Still that doesn't justify glitching though.[/quote] Utilizing the fastest option to complete in-game activities when you’re working with limited play time seems like it would be efficient timekeeping.

[quote][quote]I'd rather enjoy the content. Speedruns usually involve a glitch of some sort so I generally dump those lists into the garbage. To answer your question thoroughly. I'd rather play with people I can not only rely on, but get my fill of enjoyment from the content on. In other words. I'd rather spend 90 minutes enjoying myself than letting content become trivial and boring due to speeding through it. So I've usually got 5 friends I can get a date and time to do nothing but raiding.As such my clears are never as high up as others but I've done my share of raiding in this current mess of a game. I think I scraped over 70 clears of GoS and honestly........I wish I hadn't. I got bored of GoS fast and the glitches made it happen quicker. DSC I've thoroughly enjoyed. But I knew too well I would burn out faster with it if I took to LFG during my downtime alone.To each their own, but for people with a limited amount of time to play every week, the fastest option is always the best option.Then I pity them for their poor timekeeping. -shrug- I salute anyone with limited time that does this game legit you dudes the real MVPs out here.People have busy lives. Having limited time to play video games isn’t a sign of poor timekeeping, just a sign that they have responsibilities more important than gaming. They don’t have the luxury of being able to sit there for 2 hours just to complete a raid.Your choices will either extend your playtime or tighten it. Bungie can't be held accounted to people's life choices. So in some cases it is bad time keeping. In others it's choices made / responsibilites taken on. Still that doesn't justify glitching though.[/quote] Utilizing the fastest option to complete in-game activities when you’re working with limited play time seems like it would be efficient timekeeping.[/quote] Efficient time keeping would be planning ahead........something my bunch generally do. Considering we're spread across 3-5 timezones I believe.

[quote][quote][quote]I'd rather enjoy the content. Speedruns usually involve a glitch of some sort so I generally dump those lists into the garbage. To answer your question thoroughly. I'd rather play with people I can not only rely on, but get my fill of enjoyment from the content on. In other words. I'd rather spend 90 minutes enjoying myself than letting content become trivial and boring due to speeding through it. So I've usually got 5 friends I can get a date and time to do nothing but raiding.As such my clears are never as high up as others but I've done my share of raiding in this current mess of a game. I think I scraped over 70 clears of GoS and honestly........I wish I hadn't. I got bored of GoS fast and the glitches made it happen quicker. DSC I've thoroughly enjoyed. But I knew too well I would burn out faster with it if I took to LFG during my downtime alone.To each their own, but for people with a limited amount of time to play every week, the fastest option is always the best option.Then I pity them for their poor timekeeping. -shrug- I salute anyone with limited time that does this game legit you dudes the real MVPs out here.People have busy lives. Having limited time to play video games isn’t a sign of poor timekeeping, just a sign that they have responsibilities more important than gaming. They don’t have the luxury of being able to sit there for 2 hours just to complete a raid.Your choices will either extend your playtime or tighten it. Bungie can't be held accounted to people's life choices. So in some cases it is bad time keeping. In others it's choices made / responsibilites taken on. Still that doesn't justify glitching though.[/quote] Utilizing the fastest option to complete in-game activities when you’re working with limited play time seems like it would be efficient timekeeping.[/quote] Efficient time keeping would be planning ahead........something my bunch generally do. Considering we're spread across 3-5 timezones I believe.[/quote] Wouldn’t that be efficient? Choosing to go with the fastest option prior to logging in...? Planning out which activities you intend on completing in the time you have available while using the fastest options available? Poor time keeping would be having two hours to play and choosing to spend 90 of those minutes raiding with inexperienced players.

So long as you don't do hive magic sure.

You mean Net Limit? Oh yeah, I said the no-no word!