Get a life it balances the game from total sweaty nerds with sliding shotguns and hand cannons like snipers. The erentil is not overpowered . In the wrong hands the gun is useless hence y not a lot of ppl use it despite what your saying here. They've introduced other fusions to counter like Jotun I'd be complaining about that more if anything as u can just shoot at floor and kill someone. All in all it actually does take skill to controll erentil it's not just a fire auto gun as ppl make out . You actually have to controll the bolts as they leave the gun . Get a life and go pick on other more used weapons !!!!

I highly doubt you’re going to see a nerf with weapons like the Erentil, Jötunn, or any other broken weapon/armor/mods/builds anytime soon– unless the community and streamers deem it (seriously) broken. For example, the Telesto was granting people more supers in PvP, so the community complained as a whole and it was taken OFF the game for God sakes (rightfully so). It’s not like they don’t have the ability to do that! Weapons like the Erentil were put in the game on purpose to serve as crutches for trash players; plain and simple. Nearly maxed out range and impact with projectiles that shoot like sniper rounds on fusion rifles; you can’t simply create that by accident. The Jötunn is pretty much a handy-dandy rocket launcher with tracking. If they take away any of these broken weapons or builds without producing a replacement, then the babies that comprise nearly the entirety of this community will stop playing PvP until they come up with another broken weapon or build to play with. Their excuse will be that there’s nothing fun in PvP to use, while in reality they’re boiling up inside because they can’t land shots using scouts, hand-cannons, snipers, etc. It’s not a matter of nerfing or taking weapons off the game anymore. Bungie has a collective of ideologues that comprise their teams, which I’ll get into later. It’s ultimately a matter of what’s going to replace what they nerfed or took off the game as soon as they make moves to nerf or take something off the game. A balanced game was well off their agenda the day Halo: Reach was announced, and that was well-over 9 years ago. So, you want balance? Play something else. Destiny is a lost cause on that front, and so are most games that are out nowadays. Games are only as good as the culture, politics, and people that influence said games. I still get flashbacks from getting my 50 in Halo 3 during ranked Team Slayer and MLG matches— most people would not survive those matches today without crying their eyes out. Most of the time, aside from the hit registration/connection issues, it was either you or your teammates fault if you lost. There were very few crutches, and even fewer means of relying on them. You either got good at Halo 3, or you gave up and played CoD. That was then, this is now, and now every game plays like CoD. As the developers from CoD: MW recently announced, “We created a safe space for our players.” Weapons like the Erentil are Destiny’s new safe space once the Recluse and OEM got shut down (kinda, not really). If there was “balance” in this game, there would be a PvP Glory playlist that tested your overall skill. No supers, no loadouts, no builds, no exotic abilities, no nothing! You all spawn with the same weapon and the same stats: Either a scout, a pulse, or an auto rifle, depending on the game type, with a pistol for a secondary. You fight for the objective and fight for heavy/special weapons that spawn on occasion. Want a super? Real bad? Maybe even the same shields that OEM grants!? Fight for it, because an orb will spawn somewhere in the map that’ll grant you that ability— and you better get to it before THEY get to it first. That’s the kinda “balanced” gaming that I know. Real archaic, huh?

I only think Erentil needs a nerf. Other FR are fine and work as intended. That Wizened Rebuke is good and doesn't map like Erentil does. If you play smart it's good but it requires a lot more skill than Erentil with Rangefinder and Firmly Planted.

My proposition for fusions: -Get rid of Backup Plan (on high impact fusions at least) -Make fusions projectile weapons again -Buff lower impact fusions because they are extremely inconsistent outside of very close range. Fusion rifles should shine in medium range, but high range ones should be able to reach beyond mid-range. Changing fusions to projectile weapons wouldn't significantly affect their performance in close/medium range engagements, but it will make sniping someone require that you lead your target.

Let's be real. Piling on [b]MORE [/b]weapon nerfs isn't going to make the game more fun or interesting at this point.

[quote] If you have proof that the Erentil is overpowered please show statistics on it (user percentage does not show anything..). [/quote] Play by the rules you have set up.

Itll never happen until the streamers and tuber start crying about it.

How do I up vote lol

Just dont allow it back up plan and maybe, tune the range. Otherwise it's fine, back up plan is what makes it unbearable.

Once they nerf shotguns and snipers again seems fair

And if they nerf Erentil you people will complain about Proelium next.

I don't agree with you. I'll happily and respectfully downvote.

I wouldn't be saying Nerf them let's try an adjustment first like making them no longer hitscan.