Don’t do it then if it’s a problem.

When vendors in a looter shooter become literally only bounty place holder vs D1 being actually useful? Yep, there is something majorly wrong here. Edit: Someone asked me to make a list so I did to give an idea on how much more useful D1 vendors actually are vs D2. It's a long list. [spoiler] D1. Amanda Holiday running patrol you were able to collect schematics to turn in for ships. Later she gets a full inventory of all ships you could purchase. D2. Amanda Holiday has an empty inventory. Totally useless... D1. Vanguard starting out a fresh character all of them had a full inventory. D2. Vanguard you only have Zavala that has an inventory that hasn't been updated in a year. Cayde-6 is dead and removed from the game. Ikora has an empty inventory that she is nothing but a power engram holder, totally useless. D1. Factions always had a full inventory of emblems, weapons, gear and later updated to having a rotating inventory and they were there 24-7 that they also have (class-specific items.) D2. Factions were removed over a year ago. The dumbest move this company has ever made in this game with Factions. D1. The Gunsmith always had a full inventory D2. The Gunsmith 2 whopping mods handing out hundreds and thousands of duplicates. D1. The speaker has a full inventory and you could trade material D2. He's dead and removed from the game. D1. Every DLC all of the above were updated with a fresh inventory D2. All of the above barely anything updated in 2 years. Making them Totally useless. D1. Petra had somewhat of an inventory that you could collect a ship, shaders, etc. D2. Patra is nothing but a bounty place holder that has been handing out duplicates for 2 years. D1. Eris Morn in TDB had a full inventory of Shaders, emblems, Titan mark, Warlock bond, Hunters cloak and she sold ammo, etc. D2. Eris Morn I can almost guarantee she will only be a useless bounty place holder with Shadow Keep like the rest of the vendors in this entire game. D1. Crucible court master has a full inventory, you can purchase weapons sparrows and material that was updated ever DLC. D2. No crucible court master. D1. Vanguard court master has a full inventory of weapons, sparrows and later updated to purchase material. D2. No vanguard court master. D1. Shaxx had an inventory but was updated every DLC. D2. Shaxx hasn't been updated in a year other than quest like D1 had. D1. Variks has a full inventory of Amor, ships, shaders, ammo, Titan mark... and the material with a weapon that all of that was on a rotating system. D2. You don't have anything like that for any activity in the entire game. You run bounties and while running an activity like gambit hoping the wonderfull RNG will be in your favor. [/spoiler] All of this and I didn't even add ROI vendors. Most vendors in D1 you could triad with or purchase certain items like ammo that the price varied in material/ glimmer. In D2 the vendors are totally useless or nothing but bounty place holders. D2, the only vendor that is kind of useful when it comes to material that happens to be the only vendor that you can get material from is Spider, and the cost for things are too high.

The problem is everything is so repetitive. Kill 100 mini bosses in EAZ. Open 50 chests in EAZ. Complete 10 matches in Gambit. Its boring, especially if u want to do it 3 times, which incidentally is flawed as it requires 3 different classes to earn the sparrow. Meaning if u run say 2 hunters, u need to delete one of them. They should have made some of the story missions heroic again like they did the last time, but add a clause like kill 10 Fallen captains or kill the boss with sidearm damage only. Make it difficult. This isn't difficult. Its just..... boring.

BuT iTs An RpG nOw!!! RpGs ArE aLl AbOuT tHe GrInD!! GiT gUd ScRuB!

It's a looter shooter. You're supposed to be grinding.

[quote]Anyone else notice the grinding for everything is ruining Destiny[/quote] Yeah, everybody notices that except youtubers, streamers, hardcores and Bungie fanboys. In other words, probably 75% of whole players notices it.

I'll never understand the people who defend it. D1 had the grind but if you didn't want to live and breathe that, you could still enjoy the game. That's not the case in D2 Y2. You can't even use 9/10ths of what you get unless you constantly grind upkeep costs. Played 2300 hours of D1. Played 850 hours of D2 Y1. Basically stopped playing when SotD came out. I loved playing because I enjoyed the content itself, the movement, weapons, classes, strikes, etc. Now none of that matters, it's all about forever replacing everything you have. And for all those acting like this shit is normal, I don't remember having to forever grind Halo to be able to enjoy it. I played it because the gameplay was FUN.

Destiny doesnt have enough gameplay mechanics to keep it interesting for the long span that people seem to expect. Look at most big name, popular MMOs; they all have side activities and pasttimes, like crafting or pet maintenance, that give you a break from doing the same thing while still being able to play the same game, and be "productive" in-game. As fun as the gunplay in this game is, everyone would get bored of it eventually. This game [i]needs[/i] more SRLs. it [i]needs[/i] more activities that break up the running and shooting with an activity that is different yet still rewarding. The only thing that keeps people playing other MMOs is the fact that after a few hours of mindlessly slaying monsters, you can swap to your pickaxe and mindlessly mine ore for a few more hours and use that ore to spend a few more hours mindlessly crafting armor/weapons that you want

College kids and people without jobs complained it was " too casual" ie : lacking in grind- that was killing it season 1.. and not the fact that there was no content for solo players for end game because of raids and nightfall being locked to premades. So They have now made sure to just ramp up grind for no reason but also put some of it behind timegates. Which leads to F.O.M.O - Fear of Missing Out. And when you build an entire endgame around people not being able to get their moneys worth out of it unless they OBSESSIVELY Play it and level 3 characters, you are doing your game wrong. Even WOW doesnt expect this from people any more.

My friends left this game for fortnite.... That's how dumb this grind is.

Farming isnt the issue. The issue is bungie forcing players to do X activity with Y load out a dozen or more times. Ex: i just did 4 strikes to get arc orbs, and i have only received 82 orbs, out of 500. That is what makes destiny unfun. That and them time gating every activity. “Oh you want jotunn, good luck with only 2 runs a week”