brah... what part of your opinion is not how people play you dont understand? Have you played destiny in your life? Are you not watching what people are doing? Why exactly are people posting the same things? This is the real problem. PVP players say is easy to obtain. PVE players say is not. Both are right on their lane. Because its 2 very different kind of people that bungie as I said forces into the other. The 2 phasing shit you said doesnt matter. The conversation is not about that. Is about forcing people into activities they dont want to participate to obtain something they think they need because are the best in game for what they enjoy doing. If you do basically any hard PVE activity in the game and you LFG, people ask or talk about it. You may or may not enter to activities because of it. Gjhalahorn all over again. So get a grasp of the real conversation. I think I explained myself well. People want the best in game and will do whatever they have to get it. Including ruining the experience for those who just want to play the game. Remember me the next time you see people sitting in spawn in gambit for lumina cheese. BTW you are wrong: Redrix was the best pulse in PVE Luna/ not forgotten arguably best legendary handcannons till nerf. Swarm ( Only good when paired with tractor and has to have spike. Other than that is basically a regular 150 GL. I made the numbers and compaired already in my tribute hall) Recluse VS Revoker : Recluse is easier to get? Are you high? At least revoker is doable without gaining ranks. Just getting glory. I got it.At least revoker is doable as pinnacle by anyone who wants to cry a little in an activity they dont like for a long while and hate the game afterwards) Revoker is the hardest hitting primary legenday sniper in the game. SO... Tested that against other also including supremacy. You have 0 knowledge of what you are talking about buddy. Just a mislead opinion. Go, do some PVP and then tell me how it feels. Tell me your story about how you got that fabled and got your recluse. I can tell you that Ive played 16 hours straight not hitting fabled and watching how the game matches me with potatoes and with people who are lagging, DDOS, etc. Problematic is an understatement. I dont know how you keep putting everyone as the same. BTW you can find rune combinations tables in internet for the weapons like trust,retold tale on the menagerie loot table if interested. Just a tip for you. Best regards.