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Edited by OdinsKnight101:
6/21/2019 9:46:45 AM
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The menagerie heroic mode:
- Increased Power Difficulty: Starts at 750, increases to 770
- Weekly curated gameplay modifiers, rotating per boss
- Unlike normal mode, Guardians can hit a failure state
- Extinguish is active; if your team wipes, Calus will send you to orbit
- Encounters never repeat; if you fail to reach 100% progress toward the boss after completing each encounter once, you will be returned to orbit
I wouldn't touch match making with these changes.
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havent you played the old nightfalls in D1 ? thats basically the same.. or the heroic missions.. have matchmaking optional.. its not about a guaranteed win its about the ability to access an activity IN GAME. Accessibility should be written over the bungie meeting rooms and engraved into the main chalkboard all over.. OPTIONAL MATCHMAKING for every friggin thing.. make a disclaimer at the beginning "you wont make it this way but you can try".. but add some sort of LFG/Groupfinder/matchmaking O.p.t.i.o.n.a.l. in the game,.
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YOU ARE TROLLING
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Con-trolling the narrative =)
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Nightfalls in D1 didn't have matchmaking either lmao.
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Bungie should see this, you're being pretty reasonable here, post it.
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As far as I'm concerned, turning off matchmaking is the best warning. I would despise the idea of being match-made with casuals who think they would be able to get along with each other, if they just believed in themselves..
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But why would matchmaking bother you if you wouldn't be using it anyway?
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if you despise the idea of being matchmade i would completely support your right to not have matchmaking matchign you with randoms so that you can go into this activity with your friends only,. i just have a hard time to see why you want me to do the same thing ? im cool with matchmaking.. the same way you are cool without.. let me have my version the same way you can have yours.. ok?
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It's likely the challenge thought in theory and execution would be a rough ride for anyone going in, even understanding how everything works. These things are made with the intention to test the limits of will, working as a team. I could be wrong, I could be right. Maybe Bungie understands that if this was made into matchmaking as it is now, even if we had the restriction to be 750 power, the challenge presented would evoke hatred and dis please with the larger casual audience. Not me who has a single influence on bungie or the people behind working to bring this together. We'll see what happens though and I'm sure ''Changes'' will be made.
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[quote]even understanding how everything works. [/quote] in the Raid, yes, but not in the menagerie.. its not THAT complicated.. yea i play with 10 left thumbed moneys now and then. but thats also what you gte on LFG or psn Communities.. you are never safe from that.. [quote]I could be wrong,[/quote] yep,..u are..since noone asked for this [quote] made into matchmaking as it is now,[/quote] the main echo is. "get an LFG INGAME.. or heck even a simple mesage board will do.. but as this seems to be incredibly difficult for bungie ti implement most players settled down for -optional- matchmaking.. so not even the base level would be the same as strike matchmaking.. or the inferior reckonign matchmaking (who ever came up with that weird idea at bungie ?) and: [quote]the challenge presented would evoke hatred and [b]displeasure[/b] with the larger casual audience.[/quote] well, no.. hatred would not be linked to that specific challenge as you can see the toxic hate flowing out of your disc slot in crucible avery day and there are not even any objectives to fullfill to not die.. just "shoot stuff". having minimal mechanics like in the menagerie is okay with casuals, and even when i play normal and i have some tunnelvision lefthand 10 thumbed monekys standing right next to my ghost and not rezzing me while stealing my sword from the riposte which they lose in a second sicne they are just too low of a light.. i am still able to pull off a boss win or two in those encoutners and getting to the boss =) yes and all of them fall to death in the gauntlet but hey they learn and i get my loot at the end.. bungie would even vastly improve the MM experience by just adding a friggin text chat for my own clan.. .. as of now i cant contact them any better than a random dude .. thats quite odd.. also a flag besides the own character with possible activities i want to play woudl take us a LOOONG way forward.. "interessted in strikes / NF / Reckoning" nest to my name tag in the roster would be fantastic..
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[quote]yep,..u are..since noone asked for this[/quote]In this very moment we live in the realms of possibilities. So to say I'm wrong or right, right now. Would be pointless. I have been told by someone that the Escalation Protocol and the Menagerie where created not by bungie but another studio. You know I got my favorite SMG from EP and still use it to this day. So I'm willing to put my faith in the people who designed both, that the rewards will hold up to be ''Amazing''. Right now as it stands The Menagerie is the single, most praised content in destiny 2's history. [quote]well, no.. hatred would not be linked to that specific challenge as you can see the toxic hate flowing out of your disc slot in crucible avery day and there are not even any objectives to fullfill to not die.. just "shoot stuff". having minimal mechanics like in the menagerie is okay with casuals, and even when i play normal and i have some tunnelvision lefthand 10 thumbed monekys standing right next to my ghost and not rezzing me while stealing my sword from the riposte which they lose in a second sicne they are just too low of a light.. i am still able to pull off a boss win or two in those encoutners and getting to the boss =) yes and all of them fall to death in the gauntlet but hey they learn and i get my loot at the end..[/quote] This was a blast to read, thank you. They really should add more functionality for being able to converse our thoughts in game.
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You wouldn't have to do matchmaking if it's optional. 6 man premade teams can go into iron banner, or you can go in solo with matchmaking. The argument against matchmaking makes no sense to me.
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NO, ofc not But teams whom are going to use matchmaking and fail over and over and over again ON FIRST ENCOUNTER will start moaning and demanding nerfs, and Bungie will give in and nerf another pinnacle activity (heroic, not normal faceroll participation trophy) So, no, MATCHMAKING WILL LEAD TO THE EVENT BEING NERFED INTO THE GROUND, because matchmaking players will not be able to complete first encounter thus unable to progress You will see the forums litered with posts like "omfg nerf hc menagerie or i uninstal "'why menagerie hc made me quit destiny 2" and so on and on and on Ppl cried about LAST WORD mission......what u think will happen with hc menagerie?
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People whined about the spinning reactor in the first mission of the game and bungie removed one of them. If anybody thinks that they wouldn't nerf menagerie because a bunch of matchmade 720 blueberries can't complete it, they are putting way too much faith in bungie
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People whined about the spinning reactor in the first mission of the game and bungie removed one of them. If anybody thinks that they wouldn't nerf menagerie because a bunch of matchmade 720 blueberries can't complete it, they are putting way too much faith in bungie
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People whined about the spinning reactor in the first mission of the game and bungie removed one of them. If anybody thinks that they wouldn't nerf menagerie because a bunch of matchmade 720 blueberries can't complete it, they are putting way too much faith in bungie
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I mean like. Casuals aren't looking for a challenge. They just want rewards and the normal menagerie serves that very purpose. I'm fine with with the idea of an extra challenge that only benefits those with the intentions to perform well.
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My man. Somebody gets it.
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They shouldn't haven't went with all those changes. I referenced that in my original comment.
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As far as I'm concerned. Only care about the power engrams and mods each week.
