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4/14/2019 4:51:49 AM
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Omg you cant get 4 guns ot of EVERY guns in the game.
Thats how it works.
Most people cant get nf, some cant get luna.
They are pinnacle weapons so they arent made to be easy to get.
It is just like real life, you cant have everything you want.
And NO you didnt paid for those guns, you paid for the ACCESS to the guns.
Not bungie's fault if you arent able to get those.
Anyways if you arent that great in pvp, you dont really need pvp weapons, they wont make you turn into a better player (more like the opposite since you are going to rely on 1 gun only)
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Recluse is got tier even in PvE lol wdym
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Ik its great in pve and i love using it. But if you arent able to reach fabled this isnt worth worrying about. This isnt a weapon that is going to replace everything. A lot of weapons can do the same job or even better. You arent penalized for not having it. (Unlike not having a gjallarhorn in d1 y1)
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Edited by Amirai: 4/14/2019 5:27:25 AMThis is true but activities like Quickplay or Iron Banner are dominated by pinnacle weapons despite the fact that a majority of the player base can not compete. There is no other HC that comes close to a .67 TTK without Setup. There is no SMG that comes even close to Recluse TTK.
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There is great counters to luna or recluse. But not on console :p Console HC sucks too much. Im playing on pc with a controler. And After playing on a friends account on ps4...handcanons are terrible. The "natural" counter to luna is 150rpm HC, like ace of spade thanks to their range. But on ps4 it is impossible to kill at a good range without losing ttk. On pc another great example of luna counter is last word since it can reach a 0.57 ttk (100times easier than ps4 to land headshots) I hope for you guys to get a similar sandbox to console weapons :/ And i hope guns wont get nerfed because it penalizes PC where most guns are fine (you can use what you want and do great)
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Edited by Amirai: 4/14/2019 12:00:13 PMI am a PC player but even most exotics do not compete with 180RPM Lunas. Yes, TLW can theoretically get a .57 TTK but thats landing all headshots, and TLW has much more recoil/Bloom than 180s, and much less range. Everything else requires very, VERY specific conditions. For instance, the Raid Scout Rifle that can hit .67, but you need range+time to activate Boxed Breathing. Thorn with the perk active can 2-tap, though admittedly this is difficult to set up atm. Or Ace of Spades which can 2-Tap very low-Res guardians rarely. And consider, all of these options use up the Exotic Slot. There is no reason to use say, Ace+Good Bone Structure over Chaperone+Lunas. The only incentive is Ace/TLW+Recluse, which itself requires basically the same amount of skill as Lunas. This problem is only exacerbated on Console.
