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If even one person at a Bungie was able to reverse the letters in their head (not very good at simple puzzles if they can’t), AND it got to stay the same word till it shipped that’s a failing on their part. I understand it’s a Japanese word. There are plenty of other Japanese words to use instead, and they wouldn’t look so foolish.
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  • This is good bait

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  • That’s a trash tier meme.

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  • Wait you're seriously upset that nobody at Bungie spelled a name that's thousands of years old & translated from a different language backwards to see if it would offend anyone because of a less than 100 year old political party?

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  • I’m not upset. Read that carefully, then read the next words carefully too. I think that with all the eyes they had on the WORD Izanami in development (including the minds behind their word puzzles and lore teams who look at words all day) one of two things happened: 1) Everyone missed it, and they published it in complete ignorance and it took someone of Facebook to notice and mock them for it before they were aware. 2) They didn’t miss it. The person who saw it told no one maybe. Maybe they discussed it and decided it’s not a big deal for them personally. Maybe they saw it too late to change all the code. For whatever reason they chose not to replace it with any of countless Japanese words and phrases that pay appropriate homage without being controversial words in English when read backwards. Inari Okami is the most obvious example. Either option is a failure for Bungie and they earned the controversy and mockery they have to endure online in the age of outrage. I like Bungie. I don’t think they chose it maliciously. They are good people in general. They did screw up a little and pretending that they didn’t is ridiculous.

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    You're an Idiot and offensive , only the ignorant link the two. Izanami & izanagi Actually have a story Hence the name of the forge and the weapons. Its one of the oldest Japanese tales about Japanese GODS that's completely relevant to why its named after them period. they didn't age of outrage is bs. that you little kids thinking you can be upset & change w.e you want and it doesnt work like that. you thinking that them using that is a screw up then again you are an idiot.

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  • Oh hey, cool, you’re a really cool person. As baseless as your reply and attack are I wish you good luck. Hopefully you talk to people in your real life like you do on the internet so you can be rewarded appropriately for your great personality. Thanks for your reply, I can tell you really read what I said and aren’t just an ignorant fool spewing hate you read somewhere else instead of using your brain to thinK. What a great contribution to a discussion!

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  • [quote]Japanese words and phrases that pay appropriate homage without being controversial words in English when read backwards.[/quote]& you really don't see the ridiculousness in this statement?

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  • It’s not ridiculous to be mindful, it’s a Buddhist tenant. Maybe you should mediate on that.

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  • Cool, but it is ridiculous to ban a name because someone can get offended if they read it backwards.

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  • I never said it should even be changed, for sure didn’t say it should be banned.

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  • [quote]There are plenty of other Japanese words to use instead, and they wouldn’t look so foolish[/quote]

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  • It should have been caught and changed before release. I don’t think they should change it now. It’s on them. The smart thing to do is just take a little responsibility and move on. Next time done make such a foolish mistake.

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  • no. it should never even be considered that it needs to be changed. its not a problem. and its sure as hell not offensive. its only offensive to dumbass who intentionally read it backwards just to get offended over it. anyone with common sense would just read the name as normal. and if they do read it backwards their reaction just be "huh. interesting" and move on with their day. the more you put blame on bungie for this the more you empower the dumb SJW's to do more of this bullshit. and bungie doesnt need to take ANY responsibility because its not on them. they picked a name for their activity and it so happens that it spells out something completely different spelled backwards. not their fault.

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  • Calling it a mistake implies that the name is offensive, which it isn't. Anyone reading a name backwards to be offended by it should apologize to everyone for wasting our time over non-issues

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  • When people spend a day mocking you on the internet because of something you chose that is a mistake.

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  • when Dumb SJW's are mocking you for something so stupid like "the name you chose for your activity spells out im a Na*zi when spelled backwards, thats offensive" they need to be shunned off the internet so the rest of us can go about their day. the fact you keep saying and insisting that bungie is at fault for this or made a mistake im beginning to think your are indeed a SJW. and ill show you nothing but disdain and ridicule. so its your call. wanna grow some common sense and realise this whole thing is a non issue or you wanna be shunned an laughed at by 99% of this community?

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  • Edited by TattooedOni: 12/22/2018 10:02:42 PM
    [quote]when Dumb SJW's are mocking you for something so stupid like "the name you chose for your activity spells out im a Na*zi when spelled backwards, thats offensive" they need to be shunned off the internet so the rest of us can go about their day. the fact you keep saying and insisting that bungie is at fault for this or made a mistake im beginning to think your are indeed a SJW. and ill show you nothing but disdain and ridicule. so its your call. wanna grow some common sense and realise this whole thing is a non issue or you wanna be shunned an laughed at by 99% of this community?[/quote] You need to chill out with the political rhetoric. This doesn’t have anything to do with SJWs. People are mocking Bungie because of a choice they made and missed the possible controversy or decided to go with it anyway. That’s their responsibility and they earned the mockery. Your premise that I’m a SJW and that anyone is going to shun me is as idiotic as it gets.

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  • yes this does have something to do with SJW's because they are the ones getting offended over the name when its spelled backwards. you cannot be this ignorant. and against your ignorance blinds you. so they picked a name for a forge and now they deserve mockery because some SJW's spelled it backwards and find out it spells something completely different? you cannot be this naive. the name isnt meant to be spelled backwards. i guess you keep forgetting this or refuse to acknowledge it. the only reason this is a controversy is because SJW's do what they do best. find anything they can get offended over and run with it. not giving a care if it makes sense or not. no when you keep enabling and using the same rhetoric that the SJW's are using to shun bungie for a choice of name but it being spelled backwards you are going to be called out onit and give lots of people the impression your a SJW'. so if you dont want to be called one. then please by all means drop the SJW rhetoric.

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  • No, I’m going to make fun of Bungie for looking stupid when they look stupid. Failing to see that name would cause controversy is an oversight that came back to haunt them. It’s okay that happened, they aren’t bad people hiding racist propaganda in their game. It was an honest mistake or a bad choice, and either way they could just take responsibility for the part they are responsible for and move on. No big deal. None of that had anything to do with identity politics. You are just trying to force that narrative because that’s what you like to spazz out about. If you just want to label people SJW with no basis that’s fine, but it just makes you look stupid too. It also means anyone can just call you a SJW back and none of the words mean anything. That sounds really fun.

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  • clearly all this is completely over your head. bungie is not making themselves look stupid. they released a new Forge and people are worked on unlocking it and proceeded to play it. not giving a damn about spelling it backwards because why would you? it makes no sense. so no they dont look stupid and your only making fun of yourself by making yourself look stupid in front of Millions of people because your losing your shit over a name resembling something completely different when its spelled backwards compared to its original meaning. tell me. how many people consider this a controversy? Ya barely even 0.1% of the community. over what? a name being spelled backwards and being applied to one of the most evil organisations in human history? when the name its being spelled from has existed for FAR longer then that evil group. thankfully people arent as dumb as you are to flip shit over a name choice when they decide to spell it backwards. the most likely situation is that bungie saw that but knew it wouldn't be a big deal because hey who has need to get pissed off over it in the first place? why throw away time on research just because abunch of Politically Correct dumbass's like you find a problem with it? there is no problem in the name you only went out of your way to find a problem with it. Hence why they dont need to take responsibility. they dont need to take responsibility because you find something offensive. its not their issue. heres the difference between you and i. i recognise when im in the wrong on something. you clearly do not. also their is more to being a SJW then just identity politics. Outrage culture is one of them. which is what is the driving the hate towards bungie over this situation. People are outraged that a name bungie chose spelled backwards references a terrible Hate group during the late 1930s to the early 1940s. but again there is no discernible reason people should be going and spelling things backwards. you know what was appropriate to get upset over? the gauntlets from year 1 that bore a emblem that bore a striking resemblance to the kekistan flag which was flown multiple times by white supremacists during the awful Charlottesvile Unite the right rally which ended up claiming the life of a innocent woman only a month prior to D2's launch. that was worth getting outraged over. this does not. im not labelling people SJW's for the sake of it. im labelling people SJW's for BEING SJW's. i have spent 5 years in politics namely U.S politics despite being Canadian. so i know how to spot a SJW. and seeing how vehemently opposed to bungie you are for this decision its dawning on me that you are a SJW yourself. frankly it would be best to ignore you but i already know how much destruction your stupidity can do.

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  • [quote] clearly all this is completely over your head. [b](Great way to start out with an ad hominem attack instead of replying to anything I actually said)[/b] bungie is not making themselves look stupid. [b](It looks pretty stupid when a dev that prides themselves on puzzles and secrets never notices what a word says backwards after having it appear all over the content they are working on.)[/b] so no they dont look stupid and your only making fun of yourself by making yourself look stupid in front of Millions of people because your losing your shit over a name resembling something completely different when its spelled backwards compared to its original meaning. [b](I’m not the one losing my shit. Nothing I’ve said or done indicates I’m losing my shit. You’ll notice I haven’t posted an incoherent rant...)[/b] [b](also, millions????? Lol, no)[/b] Ya barely even 0.1% of the community. [b](Can you link me to the poll of every destiny player that proves this?)[/b] thankfully people arent as dumb as you are to flip shit over a name choice when they decide to spell it backwards. [b](except that I didn’t find this oversight and I am not the only person to comment on it. I never accused them of using it to hide hate speech like others did though.)[/b] the most likely situation is that bungie saw that but knew it wouldn't be a big deal because hey who has need to get pissed off over it in the first place? [b](The most likely [i]explanation[/i] is Bungie didn’t catch it, or caught it so late that changing it would delay the release. They are a pretty progressive company and I don’t see them including something that could be seen as offensive on purpose.)[/b] why throw away time on research just because abunch of Politically Correct dumbass's like you find a problem with it? [b](What the 2 minutes of googling it takes for someone like you to consider themselves a Japanese folklore expert. 2 more minutes and they could have had over 10 equally good Japanese words and names that don’t say anything backwards)[/b] they dont need to take responsibility because you find something offensive. [b]You kind of seem like someone who is down with hate speech, good thing you confirm that suspicion here.)[/b] heres the difference between you and i. [b](Not THE difference) [/b] i recognise when im in the wrong on something. you clearly do not. [b](lol)[/b] also their is more to being a SJW then just identity politics. Outrage culture is one of them. [b](I wouldn’t know, I’m not into labeling anyone, and I’m not a SJW)[/b] which is what is the driving the hate towards bungie over this situation. People are outraged that a name bungie chose spelled backwards references a terrible Hate group during the late 1930s to the early 1940s. but again there is no discernible reason people should be going and spelling things backwards. [b](So you don’t know aboutthe puzzles in the forges that have to do with words being spelled backwards?) [/b] you know what was appropriate to get upset over? the gauntlets from year 1 that bore a emblem that bore a striking resemblance to the kekistan flag which was flown multiple times by white supremacists during the awful Charlottesvile Unite the right rally which ended up claiming the life of a innocent woman only a month prior to D2's launch. that was worth getting outraged over. this does not. [b](maybe you’re the SJW, I didn’t think that was worth being outraged over either. I say either because I don’t find naming the forge Izanami is personally.)[/b] seeing how vehemently opposed to bungie you are for this decision its dawning on me that you are a SJW yourself. [b](go to google and find the definition of vehemently before you keep using it wrong. Check for one for SJW since you don’t know what that means either.)[/b] frankly it would be best to ignore you but i already know how much destruction your stupidity can do. [b](what destruction? How are you measuring it?)[/b] [/quote] Maybe you should give up on politics. The only thing it seems to have taught you is making up nonsense to fit your personal warped world view. I quoted that above with some replies. You’re trying to stir up shit that died 2 weeks ago. I still agree with making fun of Bungie for their screw up. They can handle it, they are adults and professionals. I still think they should take responsibility. They either missed it or didn’t think it was a problem either way when people said it was offensive (to them not me since you can’t seem to figure that out I’ll say it again)they should have taken responsibility for that (notice I never said change it). I think it was controversial obviously because it got brought up in the voice chat if every team I LFGed that week. It was posted about on every social media platform. Some people were honestly offended. It doesn’t bother me they were just because I wasn’t. I don’t think that because it doesn’t personally offend me no one else should get offended. I really don’t think I should still have notifications that someone is replying to make up more lies and pathetically attempt insult me with no real point two weeks later. Get a life.

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  • thats not a ad hominum dude. i was pointed out that all this is going right over your head which it is. again. they studio isnt looking stupid. thats a delusion youve constructed in your mind. and given that this whole topic died off short after it started a vast majority of the community including bungie agree with me this isnt a issue worth addressing anymore. since deej addressed it with its actual meaning. and the topics died off real fast. you say your not the one losing their shit yet are the one whos making a fuss out of what the forges name spells backwards? you cant be this naive man. and that 0.1% doesnt need to have a link look for yourself. out of the 100s of posts made weekly if not daily. only 1-2 of them were dedicated to getting offended over the forges name. so ya 0.1% is pretty damn accurate out of millions of people who use the forums. im sorry what? so pointing out that bungie doesnt need to take responsibility for other peoples actions means im down/for hate speech? hmm i wonder where ive heard that kind of rhetoric before.....OH YEAH. SJW's oh you arent a SJW? your actions and words sure do paint you as one. especially your previous comment of me being for hate speech. those puzzles which im guessing are in reference to the symbols. have no relation to the forges name being spelled backwards. and that doesnt make me a SJW. that incident with the kekistan flag being on a gauntlet. was bad for the game since it was a direct reference to a group who are violent extremists who ended up taking the life of a innocent woman back in 2017. theres a reason why that was addressed while this izanami "controversy" wasnt. given that you are passionate about calling bungie stupid and the like for pickign the forges name yes means vehemently was a fitting word. and i know what a SJW is. you fit the bill really well. ive been dealing with SJW's for years now trying to get them out of politics and from destroying gaming. im making up nonsense? yet your the one getting upset that bunge picked a name that fits their forge theme and it so happens the name spells something bad from nearly a century ago? when that word has existed far longer then those events? try looking in a mirror dude. cant act like your not apart of this dude. each time i reply you leave a reply continuing the cycle. so your only helping to stir the pot. simple if you dont like it to continue ignore it. is that so hard? and again. you are only making fun of yourself by making yourself look like a fool. bungie never screwed up. and bungie doesnt need to take responsibility for offending people thats just dumb. What should i take responsibility for offending Ant lovers every time i accidentally step on a ant when im walking down to the store? NO. thats stupid thinking. if you dont want to get notified anymore just turn the notifications off. problem solved. or you can always just not reply anymore. starting with this comment. since ill have no reason to post if what i want to say has already been said.

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  • Yo I can’t waste anymore time on your crazy. Think about this: The game doesn’t barely has 1 million active players. How many millions of people do you think are using the forums? I’ve directly responded to all your bullshit. Get a life, trying to argue politics on the internet isn’t one.

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  • Maybe if you're fifteen years old, but billion dollar companies couldn't care less.

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  • Oh yeah I’m sure Bungie is happy having the talk about their game dominated by this topic for the last 24 hours. I guess we will see if they could care less tomorrow and if they issue a statement in the TWAB or not.

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