[quote] The main reason I can't get the WotW. Hunters and Warlocks have np with all the turns and curves. Not Titans, even with strafe lift. [/quote] OK, now that's a load of manure. I ran WoTW on all 3 characters for myself and many runs helping clanmates and my Titan was BY FAR my favorite and the one I ran most often. Put on your jump jets (Lion Rampart) and it's even easier. No offense, but if you aren't able to get the WoTW... it has nothing to do with the Titan and everything to do with your thumbs.