I hate all these "Error Codes" that might as well just get rid of them all and say "your connection is not good enough get a better one , everything on our end is 100% fine scrub"
I have worked for ISP's for over 10 years, designing the networks, from what fibre to use, to what NTE's, Routers, Switches, SFP's, CWDM, DWDM and various other aspect's of network design and implementation.
Currently I have in my house around 15 connections which are all test connections and on a 1:1 ratio, then I have the one I pay for which is a 300Mb/20Mb connection.
Every connection gives me a ping of less than 20ms with ~1ms of jitter, and every single one of them when I try Destiny 2 on them gives me at random times "Contacting Destiny 2 Servers", this was the same with Destiny 1 on the Xbox one and PS4.
Other games give me no issues apart from some of the Call Of Duty games where they use a P2P system, and that is because it picks the host to be someone who is closest to the majority of the players in the lobby.
When I played Modern Warfare 2 and 3, in 99% of games I was the host because of my connection and being around the middle location of all players in the lobby, and I know I was the host because I was using an Admin Tool to get rid of cheaters out of the lobby.
Games by now should not be using P2P services for hosting games at all, it is not that expensive to run dedicated servers for games, on average most users connecting to a server will be uploading data to the server at around 500kbp/s that's 0.5Mb, and downloading data from a server at about 1.0Mb, so once you get the hardware requirements right, really each server for Destiny 2 will only need around 100Mb to 200Mb of bandwidth for it for PVP, for PVE content then that would be around 500Mb both ways, from my rough back of napkin math.
Anyone who say's the issue is never with Bungie or nearly always with the user, is just looking to kiss the ass of Bungie, because you will NEVER have a situation where the servers are not the issue.
Look at Titanfall, Battlefield, COD, MOH and multiple other games where people are constantly complaing about the servers, and the dev's do nothing about it.
This was just done whilst watching a Twitch Stream, and being on a work related conference call on Skype.
https://imgur.com/2mrhZxx
If I was to fire up Destiny 2 now though, I probably wouldn't get any error codes but if I did they would blame that connection and say it's bad.
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and how do we get bungie to see this so that they finaly do something about it?
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Bless you my good sir
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So they should buff fusion rifles?
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Ha ha so true!
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Incredibly insightful.
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Thank's I could go in to a lot more detail but to be honest most people on these forums would not read it because they wouldn't understand it, and that is not meant as an insult to anyone but it takes years to learn the knowledge I have, and I am still classed as a novice in the field. I use to work with my Dad doing the network designing and he has forgotten more knowledge when it comes to this stuff, than I will probably ever know he at one point was the main Engineer for the whole of the North West of England, if people had issues and needed help to fix them they called him. Me personally I was the lead CWDM planner for the company I worked for, in the region I worked in so if anyone needed training or help with problems it was me they called. I could run all sorts of monitoring equipment and software on my connection to show it's not my connection that has the issue, even through all the peering links etc but I just don't see the point as it would not change anything that Bungie or any other devs do.
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Is your dad Jon snow? He also sorts out the problems for the North?
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The tragedy of life. Disempowerment through understanding.
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I wish I was wealthy enough to hire a network analyzer firm and then take the results and shove them down Bungie's throat. After spending almost 40 years architecting and designing hard disk drive interfaces and raid sub-systems I know there's no such thing as perfect software and yet every network error message they put up explicitly states the problem is not them.
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Finally some professional truth
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id and Unreal add dedicated servers to F2P games on PC. Bungie has no excuse.
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Thank you, I am so tired of seeing people bash each othet over their internet connection, when in reality its bungie servers. As you stated theres, no excuse when you can run batttlefield flawlessly but skip around the screen in Destiny 6v6 matches