Seriously though, most if not all these players saying git gud, talking smack and those who argue against dedicated servers are cheaters! Notice just about everyone came against Bungie over Eververse, which was good! But, at the same breath mention one word about dedicated servers and you'll have all the cheaters coming out the woodwork attacking you and saying we don't need dedicated servers! That's because it would kill their cheating! That means no more easy flawless Trials runs! No more easy face stomping! Then, those cheaters would then see the true skill players shine! For me, it doesn't matter as I suck at crucible no matter what! :/